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08:50:54 <erider> hey docl whats up 
09:13:17 <docl> hi erider 
09:13:19 <docl> not much
09:13:24 <docl> still looking at lua
09:15:03 <erider> yeah I am too you increased my interest 
09:15:04 <foucist> docl: bastard!
09:15:14 <docl> muahahaha
09:15:26 <foucist> docl: seriously get into ruby on rails and we could work on some projects  :P
09:15:41 <docl> foucist: I've been *trying*
09:15:49 <docl> I can't seem to figure out how to get started
09:15:52 <foucist> i'm always interested in partnering up to do interesting web apps etc
09:15:59 <foucist> docl: ah
09:16:12 <foucist> docl: you made an heroku acct?
09:16:19 <docl> yes
09:16:23 <foucist> do they not have tutorials and shit? i haven't actually looked at them much
09:16:38 <foucist> but one of the heroku ppl is in one of my chans
09:16:46 <foucist> and i hear lots of good things about heroku anyways from others
09:16:46 <docl> http://zkarma.heroku.com/
09:16:59 <foucist> ok
09:17:15 <docl> apparently I'm supposed to have rails installed on my computer
09:17:18 <docl> or something
09:17:25 <docl> it's waaay too complicated :P
09:17:31 <foucist> docl: how's that, don't they provide you with an online editor
09:17:45 <docl> not that I could find
09:18:06 <foucist> uhh
09:18:43 <foucist> there's somewhere to edit your rails files
09:18:46 <foucist> and create new rails files
09:18:49 <foucist> all on their online interface
09:19:03 <foucist> i'm 100% sure about that so try looking around i guess?
09:19:04 <docl> hmm
09:19:10 <docl> I'll try and find that
09:19:33 <foucist> docl: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=031Gby1lB5g
09:19:40 <foucist> maybe watching one of the videos on heroku would help
09:20:07 <docl> I created an app, but it's blank
09:20:27 <docl> it's basically a git repo
09:20:48 <foucist> docl: you'll need to remove public/index.html if there is one
09:21:00 <docl> there's not one in my git repo
09:21:09 <foucist> have you made a controller
09:21:24 <docl> no
09:21:28 <docl> what's that?
09:21:34 <foucist> oh, your git repo is completely blank?
09:21:37 <foucist> no directories?
09:22:25 <docl> seems to be
09:22:36 <erider> don't turn your back on lua yet :) 
09:22:51 <foucist> lol
09:22:58 <foucist> docl: you watch the vid yet?
09:23:23 <foucist> docl: i probably have to go work soon otherwise i'd sit down and test out heroku 
09:23:43 <docl> ok I'll watch it
09:26:13 <foucist> hmm
09:26:24 <foucist> might need rails locally after all? wtf..
09:26:55 <foucist> docl: you in windows?
09:27:39 <docl> yes, windows and colinux (andlinux)
09:30:17 <foucist> well it's probably easiest to install ruby and rubygems in colinux or w/e
09:30:20 <foucist> then gem install rails
09:30:22 <foucist> gem install heroku
09:30:38 <docl> it won't install rails for some reason
09:30:46 <foucist> via gem?
09:30:55 <foucist> or via your package manager?
09:31:07 <foucist> is ruby installed alreayd?
09:31:07 <docl> gem
09:31:13 <docl> yeah
09:31:30 <foucist> ok try installing rails via your linux's package manager then
09:31:35 <foucist> if it has that..
09:32:38 <docl> maybe I'll try InstantRails for windows
09:33:37 <foucist> yeah
09:34:00 <foucist> did you gem install heroku? 
09:34:21 <foucist> w/ instantrails you can create the rails webapp directory
09:34:35 <docl> yes
09:34:37 <foucist> and then do the heroku stuff in your colinux thing, and commit the rails webapp dir into your git repo
09:36:14 <docl> grr, annoying
09:36:48 <foucist> yeah a bunch of sysadmin type stuff to get rails going
09:36:57 <foucist> that's the annoying part of rails
09:37:22 <foucist> but you'd have to do that with any other webapp :P
09:39:08 <docl> hmm.
09:39:49 <foucist> docl: you can forget about heroku for now though if you get instantrails running
09:39:59 <foucist> that'll probably just be godo enough for you to work on your webapp locally
09:40:21 <foucist> my advice to use heroku wasn't that great after all, i thought it was self-contained w/ an online editor
09:40:52 <foucist> it does have an online editor but taht doesn't show up till after you push an app to it
09:40:55 <foucist> stupidly enough
09:40:58 <docl> weird
09:41:16 <docl> maybe I could just grab a blank app from some github somewhere
09:41:39 <foucist> docl: that's also an excellent idea
09:52:38 <docl> InstantRails unzips to 170MB
10:19:25 <docl> ok, I have it running
10:45:46 <docl> I suppose the thing to do here is watch some youtube videos
10:52:27 <erider> lua is lighter :) 
10:52:52 <docl> yeah tell me about it :P
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11:43:09 <crc> good afternoon
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16:54:16 <erider> hi crc
16:54:38 <crc> hi erider, what's up?
16:54:54 <erider> nothing much and you 
16:55:02 <erider> I am hanging in there :) 
16:55:10 <crc> getting retro 10.7.2 ready for release
17:00:59 <crc> backporting some of the newer words from the repo, and fixing a couple of minor issues with the included documentation
17:01:41 <erider> other than that just a normal day? 
17:02:37 <crc> yes, resting after yesterday (I was out from 12:30 pm - 1 am, attending two concerts)
17:04:51 <erider> hmm that sounds fun 
17:36:36 <crc> it was. free tickets to both, free cd from one, and fireworks afterwards.
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