00:00:00 --- log: started retro/10.09.19 00:03:08 --- join: yiyus_ (~124271242@je.je.je) joined #retro 07:22:34 --- join: foucist (~foucist@ps14150.dreamhost.com) joined #retro 07:22:34 --- mode: ChanServ set +v foucist 07:30:27 --- quit: crc (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 07:32:29 --- join: crc (~charlesch@184.77.185.20) joined #retro 08:27:02 --- join: docl (~luke@67-60-48-82.cpe.cableone.net) joined #retro 10:10:37 --- quit: docl (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 10:28:02 --- join: docl (~luke@173.84.219.205) joined #retro 11:00:45 --- quit: docl (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 11:09:46 --- join: docl (~luke@173.84.219.205) joined #retro 11:14:45 --- quit: docl (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 11:15:02 --- join: docl (~luke@173.84.219.205) joined #retro 11:19:49 --- quit: docl (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 11:37:16 --- join: docl (~luke@74-37-16-81.dr01.hmdl.id.frontiernet.net) joined #retro 12:17:07 --- quit: docl (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 12:25:57 --- join: docl (~luke@67-60-48-82.cpe.cableone.net) joined #retro 12:50:13 --- quit: docl (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 13:02:54 hello 13:38:19 --- join: Mat2 (4d177cf6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.23.124.246) joined #retro 13:38:24 Hello 13:40:50 crc: the logs link of your retro home-page links now to www.businessweek.com 13:41:20 ??? 13:41:27 hi Mat2 13:41:32 hi erider 13:41:34 how have you been 13:41:48 did you get the compiler up and going 13:41:52 quite good (get some sleep) 13:41:55 yes ! 13:42:05 cool! 13:43:10 I'm including the sources into my Avm sources at current 13:44:04 so the vm gets native-code generation support 13:46:02 i'm mixing a bit german syntax with bad english translations at moment, sorry (to much scandinavian conversations in the past) 13:49:55 what's going on ? 13:50:59 nothing much 13:53:24 Mat2: you have a link 13:54:36 if I have a link ? 13:54:58 look at my navm repro next week 13:55:20 version 0.2 have the compiler incorporated 13:55:26 yeah a link to the vm 13:55:59 http://www.assembla.com/wiki/show/navm/Benchmarks 13:56:29 thanks 13:56:31 http://trac-hg.assembla.com/navm/browser 13:56:36 (for the sources) 14:00:43 Mat2: what else are you working on 14:02:14 a functional colorforth dialect (on top of this vm) 14:02:42 more specifly: A open source version of it 14:03:14 hmm 14:03:17 without auto-parallelisation support for example 14:03:45 sounds involved 14:31:28 now working, ciao 14:31:36 --- quit: Mat2 (Quit: Page closed) 15:33:44 Mat2: I fixed the broken links, thanks! 17:06:42 hey crc 17:10:02 yes? 18:26:12 --- join: roarde (~sixforty@pdpc/supporter/active/sixforty) joined #retro 18:28:46 --- quit: roarde (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18:34:14 --- join: roarde1 (~sixforty@adsl-99-191-98-14.dsl.spfdmo.sbcglobal.net) joined #retro 18:35:01 --- nick: roarde1 -> roarde 18:35:08 --- quit: roarde (Changing host) 18:35:08 --- join: roarde (~sixforty@pdpc/supporter/active/sixforty) joined #retro 18:44:33 crc nothing just saying hey 18:50:57 i thought colorforth was opensource :P 18:51:32 foucist: if you've seen source for the cF v4 kernel, I'd sure like to see it 18:55:42 can't you examine it directly like the earlier colorforth? 18:56:23 I'd have to run it first. To run it, I'd have to compile it. So where's the source? 18:56:46 And how does one examine blocks < 18? 18:58:20 I have the original "sourceless" cF source. Fine by me, copy con's my old favorite. 18:58:52 I have XcolorForth, but have no idea how it can be made to handle a gig of memory. 18:59:13 That's it; I've no access to other forms. 19:12:39 on 32-bit x86, how much memory can bss access? 19:12:54 * roarde 's an old 16-bit guy 19:17:06 not a register. apologies. 19:34:04 roarde: memory access depends on how protected mode was setup. Assuming a flat memory model, no segments or paging, you can access 4gb. With paging, it depends on how the page tables and such are set up. 19:35:01 thanks, crc. linux is flat, I think. Know about OSX and/or *BSD? 19:35:15 linux uses paging 19:35:45 most OSes do, since it makes multiple processes and virtual memory easier 19:36:36 thx 19:38:34 I think that Linux maps the pages so that each process gets ~3gb of (virtual) memory; with 1gb reserved for the kernel 19:39:29 I'll follow your guess, as I'm too lazy and unmotivated to research it. I need about 1.2gb or so 19:39:41 ASLR also makes things trickier, since the starting address of a process can be chosen randomly 20:18:47 --- join: docl (~luke@97-120-241-117.ptld.qwest.net) joined #retro 21:35:50 --- quit: crc (Remote host closed the connection) 21:36:05 --- join: crc (~charlesch@184.77.185.20) joined #retro 21:37:57 --- quit: foucist (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 22:06:32 --- part: alexshendi left #retro 22:27:54 --- quit: roarde (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 22:43:29 --- join: roarde (~sixforty@pdpc/supporter/active/sixforty) joined #retro 23:59:59 --- log: ended retro/10.09.19