00:00:00 --- log: started retro/10.08.31 00:31:22 --- quit: docl (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 05:28:28 foucist: which chips are for sale? and where? 05:56:45 --- join: Shoggoth_ (~chatzilla@CPE-58-172-210-36.ewqo1.ken.bigpond.net.au) joined #retro 06:48:25 --- quit: Shoggoth_ (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091124072228]) 07:23:53 jesus.. chuck moore really is a genius 07:23:55 a rich one too 07:24:17 he's got a 5 mil house and he invested 22 million into one of the forthchip companies 07:24:26 and he's still going strong with coloforth and forthchips 07:24:59 crcx: we should go meet chuck moore and learn from the best 07:29:32 he's got this haypress supercomputer thing.. basically 9 chips on a board, each with 40 c18 chips inside 07:29:59 total of 360 chips 07:30:12 each running at 700 Mips 07:30:16 that's frickin sick 07:32:14 i could use a few of those badboys and do some evolutionary computation work in that 07:34:40 crcx: well i guess greenarrays isn't making chips for sale yet, but there were chips for sale before w/ diff companies and shit 08:04:49 --- join: docl (~luke@97-120-241-117.ptld.qwest.net) joined #retro 08:37:50 foucist: if/when greenarrays gets a cheap development system out, I'd be quite interested. until then, I wait patiently :) 08:39:56 crcx: some years ago there was a forthchip for sale for like $20 from some other company, patriotscience or something like htat 08:39:59 i emailed them and all 08:40:51 --- quit: crc (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 08:41:00 I don't think they're making chips anymore 08:42:21 --- join: crc (~charlesch@184.77.185.20) joined #retro 09:01:09 --- join: roarde (~sixforty@pdpc/supporter/active/sixforty) joined #retro 09:40:55 if you're an admin at forthcommunity.com, I google-translated the new spam, and it's just what you'd think it is. Of course, anatomy, biology, and human behavior /are/ sciences, right? 09:44:21 thanks. I'll delete the spam + ban the accounts 09:50:59 done 10:05:15 --- quit: roarde (Quit: Leaving.) 10:05:27 thanks for deleting the spam 10:05:33 seems like there's a lot of that lately 10:17:30 there's a newer version of the forum software; it may need to be updated 10:46:05 crcx: just add some crappy math captcha or something 10:46:21 it it's not a common captcha plugin the spammers won't have scripts for it 10:46:35 i use a simple captcha on my blog comments and that really helps 18:58:16 I put a simple captcha on the retroforth.net pastebin which killed the spam problem 19:45:31 --- join: roarde (~sixforty@pdpc/supporter/active/sixforty) joined #retro 20:00:59 --- quit: roarde (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 20:01:20 --- join: roarde (~sixforty@pdpc/supporter/active/sixforty) joined #retro 20:39:56 --- join: Sgeo (~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net) joined #retro 20:40:28 hi, Sgeo 20:40:31 Hi 20:41:08 I started learning about Forth a few days ago 20:41:22 How's it going? 20:41:23 And would like to attempt to boot my computer into a Forth system. Is RetroForth appropriate for that? 20:41:58 Retro 10 is not. There are previous versions that would do it, though I wouldn't know which ones. 20:42:02 roarde, besides someone yelling at me not to care about ANS, I kind of care. A bit less now, though. Also pondering implementing Forth in LSL (Second Life's scripting language) 20:42:02 Sgeo: retro9 was capable of running directly on hardware 20:42:10 http://s3.retroforth.org/download/9.1/binary/retro.iso is a 9.1 iso 20:42:20 Why not in 10? 20:42:55 10 is a complete rewrite; the underlying vm for 10 hasn't been written to run on direct hardware. 20:43:05 Ah 20:43:18 Presumably it can be, but no one bothered? 20:43:40 yes 20:47:30 Hmm 20:47:37 In RetroForth, ] does not use literal? 20:47:53 ] just starts the compiler 20:48:07 When I typed literal, the ? came up 20:50:14 load ansi, perhaps? 20:50:17 literal should be present in 9.x 20:50:40 I'm playing on JSVM right now 20:51:31 10 doesn't have literal 20:52:21 trivial to define: : literal ( n- ) 1 , , ; compile-only 20:52:52 Erm 20:53:09 Where does that read anything from the stack.. I'm confused 20:53:20 , consumes a value from the stack 20:53:29 Oh >.> 20:53:45 1 = opcode for "push following value to stack" 20:53:56 so: 1 , ( n- ) , 20:59:49 docl: I checked my latest code for parable into the fossil (look in prototype2); also pushed some docs to http://rx-core.org/dev/parable.fossil/wiki?name=documentation 21:24:37 wow, looking nice 21:25:19 --- quit: roarde (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 21:25:52 I'll tackle strings tomorrow or thursday 21:27:09 --- join: roarde (~sixforty@pdpc/supporter/active/sixforty) joined #retro 21:34:31 --- quit: roarde (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 21:35:26 --- join: roarde (~sixforty@pdpc/supporter/active/sixforty) joined #retro 21:36:06 --- quit: crc (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 21:37:03 --- join: crc (~charlesch@184.77.185.20) joined #retro 22:18:17 --- quit: roarde (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22:28:38 --- quit: docl (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22:37:14 * Sgeo wonders how difficult it would be to implement Ngaro in hardware 22:37:40 * Sgeo then wonders how difficult it would be to implement Ngaro in "hardware" that doesn't even have transistors as such 23:59:59 --- log: ended retro/10.08.31