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06:28:20 <crcx> no coreImage in the last stable release...
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13:08:40 <crcx> I found couple of bugs in the rxsql server; fixes coming tonight
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15:58:20 <crc> the sqlite server works pretty well on osx; it seems buggy on linux though
16:07:14 <foucist> buggy how
16:07:22 <foucist> sqlite3?
16:09:53 <crc> foucist: no; it dies when a connection is closed
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16:17:39 <crc> I'm moving the sqlite stuff to its own repo @ http://rx-core.org/dev/rxsql.fossil
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16:22:05 <crc> hi dennisj01 
16:22:14 <dennisj01> hi crc!
16:22:46 <dennisj01> been working with retro. great program! Thank you!
16:22:52 <crc> you're welcome
16:23:58 <dennisj01> i was wondering how images/retroImage is built?
16:24:14 <crc> that's a little tricky
16:24:23 <dennisj01> i thought so
16:24:55 <dennisj01> it was built with toka initially, as i understand it
16:25:07 <crc> originally it was built using toka
16:25:46 <crc> in 10.3, I rewrote the initial assembler used to generate the kernel in retroforth
16:25:54 <dennisj01> yes
16:26:08 <crc> it compiles a new kernel, written using the assembler, to a separate memory location
16:26:35 <crc> the new kernel then gets relocated over the old one, and the assembler jumps to the new kernel
16:27:09 <dennisj01> kinda chicken and egg
16:27:14 <crc> yup
16:27:37 <crc> assuming that all goes well, the new kernel proceeds to compile the rest of the system
16:27:38 <dennisj01> so it's "handcrafted"
16:27:45 <crc> yes
16:29:27 <dennisj01> an edit of a "save"
16:29:39 <crc> the initial kernel is pretty stable in terms of implementation; most changes now are written in regular forth and patched later.
16:30:54 <crc> e.g., in the latest work in the repo, I've revamped the vocabularies significantly. 'find' was extended in high-level forth to support a proper search order; the kernel needed no alterations to make this work
16:33:27 <dennisj01> i've been working on my own native x86 coded system, in c, and i just came back to retro and had the question. Thanks for the clarifications.
16:33:36 <crc> no problem
16:35:02 <dennisj01> Programming is a great Art. Retro is a beauty! 
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16:55:26 <dennisj01> would you say the patching process is open but not yet formalized and will be formalized?
16:56:18 <crc> the patching process is fully functional, but lacking in documentation
16:58:30 <dennisj01> Great! That's what i kinda thought. So in the future, i assume,  it will be documented. 
16:59:20 <crc> yes
17:00:29 <dennisj01> It seems retro would work well with d-bus.
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17:03:17 <crc> i've not looked into dbus
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17:04:47 <dennisj01> it looks like you have a full plate already. it's a research project for me, too. 
17:14:59 <crc> my biggest issue is lack of time. at present I'm reworking the vocabulary implementation, and starting on sqlite support
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17:54:24 <crc> hi docl 
18:03:11 <docl> hi crc
18:03:36 <docl> I see rxsql is in its own fossil repo
18:03:44 <crc> yes
18:04:10 <docl> how do I get a copy? fossil clone?
18:04:19 <docl> it says I am not authorized to clone
18:04:35 <crc> hmm, give me a second...
18:05:06 <crc> try now
18:05:17 <docl> got it
18:15:41 <crc> good
18:16:00 <crc> it seems to have some stability issues on my linux box, but is very stable on osx
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18:28:25 <docl> seems to work
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23:52:24 <dennisj01> hi crc
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