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17:12:05 <erider> hello 
17:28:37 <crc>  hi
17:31:24 <erider> whats up crc
17:31:31 <crc> lots of work on rx-core :)
17:31:32 <crc> http://rx-core.org:8080/timeline?n=200
17:31:55 <erider> what type of changes 
17:32:07 <crc> cleanups, refactorings mostly
17:32:22 <crc> moving things out of the metacompiled part and into higher level retro code
17:32:55 <erider> crc refactoring is a good exercise if that code is left readable 
17:33:06 <crc> it is
17:33:11 <crc> more readable in most cases
17:33:31 <erider> I am still play with regex 
17:34:08 <erider> trying to get a good handle of text manipulation 
17:35:23 <erider> I have been reading minimal perl and I like the concept of minimalistic usage of programming languages, that is why I like forth :) 
17:37:28 <erider> crc so once the cleanup then what 
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17:58:53 <crc> I'll have a C subset to retro compiler this summer
18:19:08 <crc> retro.c builds ok with PCC :)
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18:43:16 <crc> hi docl 
18:48:09 <docl> hi crc
18:48:18 <erider> hi docl 
18:48:25 <docl> hi erider 
18:48:32 <docl> how's it going?
18:48:38 <erider> good and you
18:48:47 <docl> pretty good
18:49:31 <erider> cool 
18:49:37 <docl> I've been reading up on sqlite
18:49:48 <erider> good read? 
18:50:19 <docl> yeah. I have been reading in several places.
18:50:39 <docl> http://blog.gobansaor.com/2006/12/28/ruby-and-sqlite-a-micro-etl-environment/
18:51:21 <erider> ah ruby one of my favorites 
18:52:42 <docl> sqlite is actually used in a lot of applications, including web browsers
18:52:55 <docl> it is very lightweight and embeddable
18:53:46 <erider> yeah 
18:54:11 <docl> I've lately been realizing that databases are incredibly important
18:54:53 <docl> pretty much every office depends heavily on spreadsheets, which are just simplified databases
18:55:31 <docl> all kinds of programs rely on databases... sometimes for very simple things, sometimes very complex things.
18:56:31 <docl> you could take the extreme view that a filesystem is just a database of sorts.
18:56:37 <erider> yeah dbase are very important 
18:56:46 <crc> forth blocks are a limited database
18:57:17 <erider> window's registry :(  
18:57:21 <docl> or that a programming language is a database, i.e. of words (keys) and associated functions
18:57:38 <crc> erider: the windows registery is not a database; it's an abomination
18:57:44 <docl> :)
18:57:55 <crc> docl: the forth dictionary is my most frequently used database in programming :)
18:58:14 <docl> :)
18:58:32 <erider> lol 
18:59:14 <docl> in a sense, a vocab is a table... if you think of the words as rows.
19:03:17 <docl>  there is a mixture of contiguous with linked data in the forth dictionary. names are contiguous and zero terminated, whereas xts and classes are pointed to.
19:04:01 <docl> I wonder if it would be simpler in some respects to use pointers for the names as well?
19:04:14 <crc> I've dabbled with that in the past
19:05:35 <crc> a full separation doesn't work quite as well for performance reasons
19:06:16 <docl> that makes sense.
19:07:32 <erider> I am dabbled with regex 
19:14:26 <erider> I am dabbling with regex oops :(  
19:14:33 <docl> :)
19:14:59 <crc> retro may get regex one day. cfa was working on something for that...
19:27:00 <docl> that would be cool
19:27:12 <docl> pattern matching of some kind at least.
19:32:39 <erider> yeah regex is kind of cool but is hard to follow for complex expression but minimal style is my new thing, just the facts mam :) keep it simple stupid 
19:35:19 <docl> yeah. main things I use in regex are matching the beginning and end, and using wildcard characters.
19:38:30 <erider> yeah 
19:43:55 <docl> I'm watching http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giAMt8Tj-84
19:44:31 <docl> he's talking about the public domain, it is so funny.
19:44:36 <crc> I'm watching "Lie to Me" on netflix
19:44:48 <erider> is the good 
19:44:54 <crc> public domain is a nice concept
19:45:02 * erider doesn't have netflix
19:45:20 * docl does :)
19:45:25 <crc> netflix and hulu are my television
19:45:31 <docl> Lie To Me is cool
19:45:40 * erider has hulu :)
19:45:49 <crc> I just started watching it. It's great so far :)
19:45:50 <docl> yeah, why pay for cable? :)
19:46:28 <crc> yup. I'd rather pay for books than tv
19:47:21 <docl> absolutely
20:11:59 <docl> that was a good tech talk. :)
20:17:44 <crc> my unread library is down to 3-4 months worth of books. Time to start looking for more :)
20:58:24 <erider> talk to you later
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