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18:30:43 <crc> hi erider 
18:31:01 <erider> hi 
18:31:19 <erider> hey did you say yes yesterday to adding that ruby mod 
18:31:51 <crc> I have a functional rails installation, but haven't actually used it for anything yet
18:32:08 <crc> http://rails.rx-core.org/
18:33:42 <erider> hmm 
18:34:57 <erider> I don't have access to that server to move stuff to it 
18:35:13 <crc> I can setup an account on it for you
18:35:59 <erider> thanks you don't have a roaming profile 
18:36:25 <crc> ?
18:37:00 <erider> nevermind 
18:37:20 <erider> I was joking and I guess you didn't get the joke 
18:37:24 <erider> :9 
18:37:38 <crc> ok
18:43:30 <erider> test 
18:43:45 <crc> you're still here
18:45:15 <erider> I am watch a movie on line and I am having some slow points with this new internet service 
18:45:32 <erider> it is buffering a lot 
18:46:28 <crc> what service?
18:47:30 <erider> fois 
18:47:39 <erider> fios 
18:47:43 <crc> ok
18:47:56 <crc> I recently started using Clear (WiMax)
18:48:13 <erider> do you like it 
18:48:19 <crc> yes
18:48:57 <erider> good speeds 
18:49:11 <crc> fast enough for my needs
18:49:22 <erider> cool 
18:49:32 <crc> latency tends to be too high for gaming, but everything else works beautifully
18:50:16 <erider> yeah I am getting that latency issue now 
18:50:39 <erider> it is buffering a lot 
18:50:55 <erider> It is driving me nutts 
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19:39:49 <crc> welcome back
19:40:20 <erider> thanks 
19:40:36 <erider> I needed to download a new flash player 
19:43:06 <erider> so when is the new release of retro 
19:43:19 <crc> next weekend if all goes well
19:45:11 <erider> you are just coding the C release right 
19:45:18 <crc> no
19:45:24 <crc> everything is developed in parallel
19:45:45 <erider> so you have help then 
19:45:50 <crc> yes
19:46:03 <crc> docl, cfa, yiyus, and others have all made contributions
19:46:51 <erider> I am talking about the parallel developing 
19:47:38 <crc> docl and I worked on the image; cfa and I did work on the C implementation; yiyus has updated gonga, and I've updated the javascript implementations
19:49:22 <erider> cool 
19:55:49 <erider> crc so are you still going with you complete web retro 
19:56:12 <erider> or browser based programming 
19:56:16 <crc> I'll eventually complete the web-based retro
19:57:25 <crc> I do too much work in the browser to ignore it as a development platform
19:57:29 <erider> so how are you adding the optional libs 
19:57:46 <erider> it is going to be OS depend 
19:59:15 <erider> true some can agree that it is a platform like an OS lol 
19:59:51 <crc> loading of libraries requires the C, C#, or Gonga implementations
20:00:03 <crc> once loaded and saved, the image can be exported back to javascript
20:00:49 <erider> I am referring to file i/o socket etc.. 
20:01:11 <crc> file i/o is supported by C, SDL, and Gonga; sockets by C and Gonga
20:01:17 <crc> time is supported on all implementations
20:01:47 <crc> I'm going to try to get file i/o and sockets into the C# implementation for 10.6
20:04:40 <crc> supporting sockets on javascript is not possible at this point
20:04:50 <erider> true 
20:04:50 <crc> a simulated file i/o may be doable though
20:18:59 <erider> crc well is there a way to use the feature that you can use the browser tcp APIs 
20:19:53 <crc> tcp only covers part of the sockets support. I provide (basically) a layer over the standard bsd sockets. I don't think you can get a raw socket from the browser.
20:21:57 <erider> how can you tap into the browser socket APIs 
20:24:38 <crc> there is no standard way to access sockets from javascript
20:25:10 <crc> it can be done by interfacing with flash or java, but that reduces the portability of the javascript, especially on mobile devices
20:31:16 <erider> true 
21:00:09 <erider> so other than that things are good to go right 
21:00:17 <crc> yes
21:00:37 <crc> there's not likely to be any more significant changes until after the 10.5 release
21:00:54 <crc> only bugfixes and minor cleanups as needed
21:25:59 <erider> good night 
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