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06:36:58 <retro-commit> [crcx/retroforth] 11035a: start reorganization of forthlets
08:36:56 <retro-commit> [crcx/retroforth] 666145: fix serious bug in rem
08:40:55 <retro-commit> [crcx/retroforth] cd5853: merge remvi into rem; add "vi" word to use vi keyb...
08:41:56 <retro-commit> [crcx/retroforth] 322140: use forthlets build system for rem
08:46:58 <docl> good morning
08:50:52 <crc> hi docl
08:50:56 <docl> hi crc
08:51:16 * crc fixed a bug in rem that was causing it to corrupt the image file after a save
08:51:40 <docl> how was it doing that?
08:52:12 <crc> (remap-keys) was renamed to remap-keys and the code wasn't updated
08:52:35 <crc> so the address resolved to 0, which meant that the revector process was corrupting the jump to the main entry point
08:53:46 <docl> ahh
08:58:16 <docl> does "include" let you access library files and forthlets?
09:05:24 <crc> yes
09:05:50 <crc> I changed the layout of the forthlets dir, with makefiles to setup links and such 
09:13:32 <crc> bbiab; lunch time, then I have a few errands to run
09:20:53 <docl> ok
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13:02:26 <crc> back
13:03:14 <crc> took longer than planned
13:04:47 <cfa> hey crc
13:04:58 <crc> hi cfa 
13:09:52 <crc> cfa: I merged your remvi into the standard rem
13:09:59 <cfa> so i saw—good stuff
13:10:28 <cfa> and now that we can load and save blocks, rem should be even more useful
13:11:01 <crc> yup
13:14:56 <retro-commit> [crcx/retroforth] 4e82a9: sketchpad app now buildable
13:18:56 <retro-commit> [crcx/retroforth] a63940: tic-tac-toe game buildable
13:19:24 <cfa> crc: the sketchpad build symlinks the default retro which is usually for console, right?
13:19:35 <crc> cfa: yes
13:19:52 <cfa> perhaps add an option to the Makefile to link in the SDL version
13:19:54 <crc> cfa: but you can't build it with the sdl port (lack of 'include' and --with)
13:19:59 <cfa> ah
13:20:05 <crc> I'll try to address that soon
14:13:57 <retro-commit> [crcx/retroforth] 6bea34: add hangman from Marc
14:49:56 <retro-commit> [crcx/retroforth] fb58b1: arrays library from Marc
15:30:24 * crc is working on rxweb a bit more. trying to make it cleaner/more maintainable
15:41:56 <retro-commit> [crcx/retroforth] ce74c5: start of new rxweb
15:49:16 <crc> new rxweb code used 432 cells of memory; old one used 4,817
15:50:09 <crc> there's a couple of minor things left to add, but it'll be way smaller and is much cleaner while still supporting similar syntax
15:52:48 <cfa> > 11x reduction?  wow.
15:55:32 <crc> 577 cells with the two missing pieces added
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16:52:26 <erider> hi 
16:53:03 <crc> hi erider 
16:53:11 <cfa> hey erider 
16:56:49 <erider> hey guys 
16:56:56 <erider> ray is that you? 
16:57:29 <crc> no ray tonight
16:57:56 <erider> oh
16:58:44 <erider> crc:  so js only have access to DOM components of said browser right 
16:59:00 <crc> erider: yes
16:59:15 <erider> I wonder ??? 
17:01:56 <erider> crc:  I saw a forth implementation is js that was fast as lightning 
17:02:40 <cfa> jsforth?
17:06:51 <foucist> crc: why is it smaller?  or rather, why was the old one so big
17:07:15 <crc> foucist: the old one was an adaption of an earlier piece of code written back in retro7
17:07:31 <crc> didn't take advantage of any of the changes made since then
17:08:10 <foucist> it's still forth code
17:08:28 <foucist> why was it so big? ;)
17:08:41 <crc> code is only as good as the implementer
17:10:29 <erider> cfa: wforth 
17:10:56 <retro-commit> [crcx/retroforth] b0734a: purge old rxweb
17:11:28 <crc> erider: there's a fundamental difference: wforth is written in javascript. retro is not.
17:12:18 <erider> crc:  I wasn't comparing the two  I was just commenting on the implementation 
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17:13:10 <erider> I know that retro is not written in js but one of the ngaro implementations is 
17:17:32 <erider> crc: did you get all you books up on the site 
17:17:52 <foucist> what books
17:17:58 <crc> erider: my personal library has about 90% of my books. I still have more to convert to epub
17:18:34 <erider> ah ok
17:19:08 <crc> the big issue there is time to decrypt/convert to epub
17:19:50 <foucist> ?
17:20:00 <crc> foucist: my collection of ebooks
17:21:10 <crc> foucist: I've been uploading them into a webapp to let me manage/access them remotely
17:21:35 <crc> foucist: I have a small subset of public domain books up in a sandbox for semi-public testing
17:25:36 <foucist> how many gigs
17:26:00 <crc> currently? about 1/2gb for my personal library
17:26:49 <crc> (my epubs are compressed using zip, with maximum compression settings)
17:27:00 <foucist> i recently separated out the majority of pdfs from all my project folders etc into separate ebook directory
17:27:12 <crc> no pdf's
17:27:18 <crc> pdf's suck for reading on mobile devices
17:27:25 <crc> :)
17:27:27 <foucist> 3.7 gigs of pdfs, mix of ebooks, subject specific stuff, etc
17:27:28 <foucist> yeah
17:27:31 <foucist> i don't do that yet
17:27:36 <foucist> i want to get a kindle though
17:27:46 <foucist> kindle2 is nice, can access the internet almost anywhere
17:27:49 <crc> I have two sony readers
17:27:56 <foucist> cool, you use those?
17:28:03 <crc> no wireless in them though
17:28:09 <crc> foucist: yes. heavily :)
17:30:44 <foucist> what kind of books are you reading mainly
17:30:47 <foucist> fiction or nonfiction
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17:39:10 <crc> mostly fiction over the last year
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17:42:44 <crc> wb erider 
17:52:44 <erider> thnks
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18:56:56 <retro-commit> [crcx/retroforth] e7b0b8: minor bugfix to  tag
19:15:56 <retro-commit> [crcx/retroforth] 1d07b8: updated random library from Marc
19:18:56 <retro-commit> [crcx/retroforth] dbc617: minor tweak to example w/rxweb
19:19:56 <retro-commit> [crcx/retroforth] cb50e0: update maze example
19:29:56 <retro-commit> [crcx/retroforth] 6df118: add sockets to console vm; example to forthlets; n...
19:38:56 <retro-commit> [crcx/retroforth] 9059c1: fix a compile-time warning
21:02:15 <foucist> crc: scifi?
21:02:27 <crc> foucist: some
21:02:36 <crc> foucist: I'll read almost anything
21:11:57 <retro-commit> [crcx/retroforth] 6d3e82: fix a bug in recv
21:21:56 <retro-commit> [crcx/retroforth] 743fbf: cleaner file device implementation from Marc
21:30:56 <retro-commit> [crcx/retroforth] 742f08: patch from Marc to fix warning in sockets device
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