00:00:00 --- log: started retro/10.01.16 01:24:22 --- join: virl (n=virl__@chello062178085149.1.12.vie.surfer.at) joined #retro 04:46:57 --- quit: crc_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 06:08:30 --- join: crc (n=crc@216.1.43.130) joined #retro 07:39:28 --- join: erider (n=chatzill@pool-173-69-160-231.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) joined #retro 08:07:54 --- quit: virl (Remote closed the connection) 09:40:49 4591.98 09:40:58 http://cheat.errtheblog.com/s/git 09:42:16 --- quit: crc ("Leaving") 10:25:16 nice 10:32:59 looks like the main change in rxweb is the attr: tag 10:40:38 --- quit: SimonRC (farmer.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10:40:38 --- quit: docl (farmer.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10:41:25 --- join: SimonRC (n=sc@fof.durge.org) joined #retro 11:04:35 --- join: docl (n=luke@97-120-211-224.ptld.qwest.net) joined #retro 11:33:29 ji 11:33:32 hi 11:44:44 howdy 11:45:18 crc has put together a nice new git repo with all the retro related stuff in it: http://code.assembla.com/retro/git/nodes?rev=master 12:13:35 docl: cool 12:17:58 --- join: virl (n=virl__@chello062178085149.1.12.vie.surfer.at) joined #retro 12:28:04 hi virl 13:00:46 hi 13:18:10 --- join: Raystm2 (i=rastm2@c-24-8-232-212.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #retro 13:18:31 --- part: Raystm2 left #retro 13:20:16 --- join: Raystm2 (i=rastm2@c-24-8-232-212.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #retro 13:20:23 --- quit: Raystm2 (Remote closed the connection) 13:20:33 --- join: Raystm2 (i=rastm2@c-24-8-232-212.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #retro 13:20:42 --- quit: Raystm2 (Remote closed the connection) 13:21:39 --- join: Raystm2 (i=rastm2@c-24-8-232-212.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #retro 13:22:08 --- part: Raystm2 left #retro 16:08:53 --- join: foucist (n=foucist@69.93.127.31) joined #retro 16:08:53 --- mode: ChanServ set +o foucist 17:19:23 --- join: crc (i=crc@71.23.200.183) joined #retro 17:19:38 good evening 17:20:00 --- mode: ChanServ set +o crc 17:20:15 evening crc 17:20:19 hi foucist 17:20:23 how goes it :P 17:20:36 pretty good overall 17:20:54 any news? 17:21:08 still working for the same company? 17:21:19 denney electric 17:21:21 yes 17:21:36 i've been living in the philippines the last 4 months :D 17:21:40 I'm now in charge of purchasing and inventory management though, so it's a step up :) 17:21:52 cool 17:22:04 so you don't do as much coding at work then? 17:22:18 I still do some 17:22:43 I have more time on the system, so can work on anything when it's slow 17:24:02 have you done much with other languages? 17:24:04 like ruby? 17:24:20 no 17:24:25 mostly C and Retro now 17:25:16 I play with go a little, but haven't made anything interesting in it yet 17:25:55 yuck, go seems sucky 17:25:59 well 17:26:17 i judge all new programming languages by their readability & terseness (i.e. by ruby's standard) 17:26:29 i expect new programming languages to build on the shoulders of the giants that came before them :P 17:26:53 that is, i expect new programming languages to at least incorporate some of the readability & terseness of ruby, forth, etc.. :P 17:27:03 altho ruby is far more readable than forth is ;) 17:27:29 I'd like to do an implementation of ngaro in ruby someday 17:29:29 what's ngaro 17:29:50 vm/misc emulator for the current retro implementation 17:29:51 oh, risc emulator 17:29:53 oh 17:30:48 I've got implementations in C, C#, J2ME, Java, Go, elisp, and javascript so far 17:30:48 cool you're on github 17:30:50 that's good 17:30:53 ah 17:30:54 nice 17:31:00 simple to implement? 17:31:02 started moving to assembla due to problems with github 17:31:10 very easy :) 17:31:12 what! 17:31:18 assembla isn't github 17:31:30 I'm on both 17:31:38 what problems do you have wth github 17:31:50 control? 17:32:10 applying changes from forks is proving problematic on github 17:32:32 hmm, how's that? 17:32:53 js4 clones my repo. he can't pull any future changes cleanly, even if he never modifies my copy 17:33:51 he pulls to his local from your github and then pushes it to his github? 17:35:26 I've had problems doing that 17:36:02 and the web interface for fork commits is useless too. patches that should be clean won't apply without manual tweaking. 17:36:39 --- log: started retro/10.01.16 17:36:39 --- join: clog (n=nef@bespin.org) joined #retro 17:36:39 --- topic: 'Retro Forth | Logs @ http://tr.im/Kept | http://retroforth.org | Stable Release 10.3.1 - January 2010' 17:36:39 --- topic: set by crc on [Tue Jan 12 18:14:13 2010] 17:36:39 --- names: list (clog @crc @foucist virl docl SimonRC erider js4 zbrown probonono @ChanServ yiyus) 17:36:51 --- log: started retro/10.01.16 17:36:51 --- join: clog (n=nef@bespin.org) joined #retro 17:36:51 --- topic: 'Retro Forth | Logs @ http://tr.im/Kept | http://retroforth.org | Stable Release 10.3.1 - January 2010' 17:36:51 --- topic: set by crc on [Tue Jan 12 18:14:13 2010] 17:36:51 --- names: list (clog @crc @foucist virl docl SimonRC erider js4 zbrown probonono @ChanServ yiyus) 17:42:43 hi 17:42:48 hi erider 17:42:55 whats up 17:43:49 not a lot right now 17:45:17 what are you doing 17:46:21 preparing to do more cleanup to rxweb 17:58:42 good evening 17:58:51 what do you think of spaced repition programs? 17:59:07 what's that? 18:00:01 hi docl 18:00:18 hi crc 18:05:35 docl, a flashcard program, with a crazy algorithm of planning reviews 18:07:36 oh, cool. looking at the wikipedia page now :) 18:08:28 would it be an effective way to learn programming, I wonder? 18:11:29 SRS ftw 18:11:34 i'm very interested in that 18:11:44 virl: i use anki & smart.fm 18:11:48 http://smart.fm 18:11:49 for learning japanese 18:12:08 * docl is looking at the mnemosyne page 18:12:16 i have my own ideas for a flashcard program 18:12:39 virl: have you done anything with it? do you have any goals? 18:12:51 mnemosyne is shit. 18:13:00 anki is really nice. 18:13:20 they implemented all that what I wanted to implement in guile. 18:13:40 guile? 18:14:04 this? http://www.gnu.org/software/guile/guile.html 18:14:42 virl: what did you implement in guile 18:14:45 url? 18:15:47 nothing yet. I just wanted a program which is a combination of spaced repetition and a planning and presentation software of knowledge. 18:16:36 as I really like mnemo techniques, I wanted something with what you can plan your memory castle. 18:16:58 i guess you've read the supermemo stuff 18:17:51 and what do I want to learn? well.. for now I need to get three university course tests done. 18:18:17 foucist, yeah I read the supermemo stuff 18:18:31 i like his ideas about putting reading material through the system 18:20:44 that is a nice idea too 18:21:04 sadly, that supermemo is so closed 18:22:01 yeah it's a bit of a mess, the guy's a scientist/phd though heh 18:22:34 yeah, also the ui is not a good one. 18:23:05 it's amazing how far the anki people made the software. 18:23:41 I would wish, that a nasty bug would disapear on my machine 18:24:04 also when I want to synchronise something with anki online it doesn't work :/ 18:24:36 the main coder is active in #aki 18:24:39 #anki 18:28:54 virl: i really want to get the srs algorithm down in ruby code in a nice and readable way heh 18:29:37 anki is nice. 18:30:21 foucist, you want to code your own anki? 18:30:47 virl: yeah a webapp 18:31:07 I mean I want that too.. somehow.. 18:31:15 virl: i have a twist on the SRS idea, no need for ranking "1..4" or anything like that 18:31:31 got some ideas on how to make it better than smart.fm 18:33:10 * docl is going to try making a retro implementation just for the heck of it 18:33:31 although a pop-up may be hard to arrange from within retro 18:35:35 less ambitiously, I'll just put in flashcards with a variable repetition frequency... ones you rate easy need to wait for you to cycle through the list more times before they show up again. 18:36:00 pop-up? 18:36:25 isn't the idea behind these things to have it pop up every so many days? 18:36:33 run it like a cron job or something? 18:36:39 or am I misunderstanding? 18:37:16 yeah the idea is for an item to appear before you forget, when you're reviewing the items 18:40:25 does anyone have a copy of NAGOA+.inc 18:43:05 good night folks. 18:43:14 see ya virl 18:43:17 --- quit: virl (Remote closed the connection) 18:53:57 --- part: foucist left #retro 19:55:46 --- quit: erider (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20:27:02 * crc likes the side-by-side diffs on assembla 20:27:11 where are those? 20:27:34 oh, found them 20:27:37 nice! 20:29:07 the demo is looking nice too :) 20:29:27 I've got the demo running live on the retroforth server :) 20:31:54 is there a link? 20:31:59 http://retroforth.org:9812/ 20:32:10 of course :) 20:43:42 I tweaked the css a bit 20:44:42 nice! it lights up on mouseover... 20:45:35 this could become a nice web app... just needs a way to enter code 20:48:37 that'll come sometime 20:48:48 yeah 20:49:05 being able to browse blocks is pretty nifty already though 20:49:28 a web app block editor would be cool 20:50:11 vm/javascript/server-side 20:50:26 maybe just have a text input box and a drop-down for the line number, which defaults to one higher than the previous one 20:50:36 use a retroImage.js and you can edit in the browser and save to the server :) 20:52:55 combine with rxweb and you can write webpages from themselves... 21:25:15 --- quit: crc (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 23:59:59 --- log: ended retro/10.01.16