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02:54:11 <mat2> hello everyone
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08:30:47 <retro-commit> [crcx/retro10] 8b83cc: cleanups to metacompiler
09:32:46 <retro-commit> [crcx/retro10] b78429: move check into createTarget
10:07:46 <retro-commit> [crcx/retro10] 16b81a: use "shut" on vocabularies
10:21:52 <crcx> don't pull from me right now; some of my changes are breaking things...
10:32:36 <crcx> got it building again, but have to build the core + stage2 and the other extensions separately
10:39:57 <crcx> ok, more oddness. I can build the image in one run, but only with --shrink passed...
10:51:46 <retro-commit> [crcx/retro10] a31125: roll back metacompiler due to severe breakage
10:58:48 <retro-commit> [crcx/retro10] 1b4236: cleanups to "save" in metacompiler
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11:51:52 <Mat2> good afternoon
11:53:56 <Mat2> hmm, it would nice if some one can tell me the local time so I can adjust the time zone, for me it's 20:53 now
11:54:24 <Mat2> ciao
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13:32:28 <js4> eep "1 1 <" returns "-1"  Atleast it's consistent with the <if
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15:31:52 <erider> hi
15:43:45 <js4> Hi
15:44:10 * js4 is working on <# # #s sign hold #>
15:49:03 <erider> really 
15:51:02 <js4> http://gist.github.com/274736
16:05:36 <erider> what is the usage of the word once you are done 
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16:11:33 <erider> alike of forth guys I notices do annotate how to use the new word that they create
16:11:40 <erider> alot* 
16:12:11 <js4> That's why the gist points at some web pages.
16:12:46 <js4> I don't want to try to reproduce good documentation...
16:12:59 <js4> I will have extensive unit tests as usual
16:14:35 <erider> a good show of usage is aways go if documentation is missing. like -h in linux and /? in windows :) 
16:39:03 <js4> http://gist.github.com/274736
17:02:11 <erider> nice
17:08:54 <retro-commit> [crcx/retro10] 0c1600: metacompiler now in a vocab, most cleanups restore...
18:12:08 <crc> js4: in your paste, I need definitions for !0; and z;
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19:26:20 <retro-commit> [crcx/forthlets] 1a4f84: ensure proper open/close of vocabs
19:47:34 <js4> oops, I've been using this other stuff too, forgot about it... I like z; 0; nz; and !0; so much...  http://gist.github.com/274879
19:48:34 <js4> z; is 0; that doesn't drop, nz; is "not zero ;" non dropping version of !0;
19:49:07 <js4> I think you recently added !0; but called it if;
19:50:29 <js4> The thing I was exploring, not sure if I like the outcome, in the second gist is re-writing the main repl without using a global variable found (think that was it's name)
19:54:36 <js4> pictured numeric output http://gist.github.com/274736 now is stand alone, tested 144 tests right now.
19:55:28 <js4> But pno really should be using doubles, and probably has a bug.  I don't know what 1 <# # # # #> should generate
19:55:55 <js4> I lean towards "  1" right now though I think it does "1"
20:17:48 <js4> Win32Forth does "1 s>d <# # # # #> type 001 ok"
20:17:51 <js4> yuck
20:19:01 <js4> also win32forth " : . s>d d. ;  : d. (d.) type space ; : (d.) <# #s sign #> ; " essentially
20:20:56 <js4>  : z; ` dup ` 0; ` drop ; compile-only
20:20:56 <js4>  : !0; ` 0 ` !if ` ;; ` then ; compile-only
20:20:56 <js4>  : nz; `dup ` 0 ` !if ` ;; ` then ; compile-only
20:23:24 <js4> win32forth does something funny about sign though... I don't like it.
20:24:25 <js4> their def matches the spec though, mine is non standard.
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20:56:20 <js4> retro needs (?) "user variables"
20:57:10 <js4> not really... but a version of <# # #s #> that used user variable would be more thread safe
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22:16:48 <js4> hi docl
22:45:25 <docl> howdy
22:53:45 <js4> Well <# # #> and friends are put to bed for a while, I'll look it back over and prolly check it in in a day or two...
22:54:35 <js4> I was just trying to find the gist or whatever crc posted for making inline words.  Do you have the url?
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