00:00:00 --- log: started retro/09.06.23 00:15:59 --- quit: virl (Remote closed the connection) 02:49:06 --- quit: nighty__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03:09:27 --- join: nighty__ (n=nighty@210.188.173.245) joined #retro 03:21:43 --- quit: nighty__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03:21:59 --- join: nighty__ (n=nighty@210.188.173.245) joined #retro 04:36:47 --- quit: nighty__ (Client Quit) 11:52:33 --- join: crc (n=crc@baconfile.com) joined #retro 11:52:55 --- mode: ChanServ set +o crc 11:53:20 --- topic: set to 'Retro Forth | http://retroforth.org |' by crc 11:53:39 --- topic: set to 'Retro Forth | http://retroforth.org | Stable Release 10.1.2' by crc 11:54:09 --- quit: crc (Client Quit) 11:54:11 --- join: crc (n=crc@baconfile.com) joined #retro 11:54:20 --- quit: crc (Client Quit) 13:58:22 --- join: benny99 (n=benny@p5486FFAB.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #retro 15:15:37 --- join: crc (i=415b7421@gateway/web/freenode/x-3a25de73ad01e646) joined #retro 15:15:37 --- mode: ChanServ set +o crc 15:16:14 * crc is on a tethered gprs connection 15:35:49 --- join: virl (n=virl__@chello062178085149.1.12.vie.surfer.at) joined #retro 15:36:09 yay - more people 15:36:12 hi virl 15:36:28 hi 15:36:36 finally some more people 15:36:54 I did nothing on my forth for months 15:37:02 that sucks. 15:37:11 I've done a lot on Retro over the last month 15:37:37 hope I can finally start bootstrapping it with arm code. 15:44:01 --- quit: benny99 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 15:44:11 are you using arm assembly? 15:44:53 i wrote one time an arm assembler, so yes. 15:45:14 but basically I bootstrap it in itself. 15:45:57 cool 15:46:45 but I'll try a chuck-moore style approach now, because the arm assembler is in my eyes limited. 15:47:02 * crc is now at a point where extensions to the Retro image are easier in Retro than with the machine forth cross-compiler 15:47:19 --- join: benny99 (n=benny@p5486FFAB.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #retro 15:47:35 finally a conversation and now I missed it :( 15:47:38 you know the $baba , thingy 15:47:48 http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/retro/09.06.23 15:48:01 did somebody already write a syntax file for vim ? 15:48:42 http://retroforth.org/contrib/files/retroforth.vim 15:48:52 * benny99 also wasted time 15:48:57 was done for retro8, but should still work with retro10 15:49:19 I have no problem including an updated one if you've put one together 15:51:13 now I deleted my old version :/ 15:51:24 most of the keywords changed, didn't they ? 15:51:47 I believe so 15:52:40 virl: I do that in the cross-compiler in places, and did that a *lot* in the older retro 6 - 9 releases 15:54:34 I know. it seems to be one of those things which can be only learned by doing. 16:03:55 * crc is working on the MIDP implementation of the vm: this should work nicely on my blackberry 16:04:53 MIDP? 16:04:59 crc, you are 'the retro-developer' aren't you :p ? 16:05:11 a subset of Java for mobile phones and such 16:05:15 benny99: yes 16:05:30 crc, so you know certainly that most keywords changed :p 16:05:57 I never used the vim highlighter 16:06:21 benny99, yeah. he likes to change it a lot. 16:06:43 * crc uses nano as his main editor, and sometimes emacs. I only use vim when working with an AIX box at work 16:07:10 so there's an emacs syntax file ? 16:07:20 nope 16:07:46 there was once, but I lost it :( 16:08:35 how does that actually look like? 16:08:48 btw. ever scripted something for emacs? 16:09:47 ok :( 16:10:12 virl, take a look at some source :p 16:10:54 benny99, what do you mean? 16:11:47 I'm really tired and going to stumble into my bed 16:12:53 so it would be cool if you let me know what exactly your point is 16:13:10 for me it's out of context 16:15:31 'emacs syntax highlighting code' does look like it does - you asked how it actually looked like - the code is open source 16:16:33 updated retro code works properly on the blackberry :) 16:18:25 I'm also tired 16:18:34 crc, great :p 16:19:11 crc, is there an 'actual application written in retro' already ? 16:19:46 nothing major 16:20:26 though one guy is working on using it as part of an ecommerce site 16:21:42 wow 16:23:29 --- join: GitHub132 (n=GitHub13@129.177.74.65.static.xc88.engineyard.com) joined #retro 16:23:29 retro10: 3Charles Childers 07master0 SHA1-6e04ee6 16:23:29 removed "bootstrap" facility from midp; updated icon, include extensions in core image [MIDP] 16:23:29 http://bit.ly/mabqK 16:23:30 --- part: GitHub132 left #retro 16:23:42 I've done a small drawing program for my kids (4 & 5 years old) to play with 16:24:05 an ecommerc thing? 16:24:17 how? what? ugh?! 16:25:07 I don't know much about it, but he's working on a sockets device for the backend, and hopes to use retro as a client/server (c implemenation on the back, and javascript implementation in the browser) 16:31:10 using the framebuffer-version ? --- interesting 16:31:20 http://retroforth.com/paste/raw.php?id=1923 16:31:48 that would be the core code for the drawing app. (no menus, saving, etc yet; but it does demo the new mouse support in the framebuffer build) 16:41:44 neat 16:42:08 well, I got to leave; good night 16:43:05 hm, though: how do those ports work ? 16:44:15 the vm watches for mouse events in the window, and records them as they happen 16:44:28 the emulated device reads the values and passes them back 16:44:34 I mean the 'in' and 'out' keywords 16:44:50 in: port# -- value 16:44:57 out: value port# -- 16:45:06 out is normally used with 'wait' 16:45:13 in reads values from a port 16:45:17 out writes values to a port 16:45:33 yes, but what is a 'port' ? 16:45:44 wait tells the vm to loop until an I/O event happens in response to a port 16:45:55 ports are the low-level I/O facility provided by the vm 16:46:14 there's 1024 of them (mostly unused) 16:46:22 is there a way to look them up ? 16:47:30 I seem to have left that section out of the manual :( 16:47:38 * crc will rectify that this week 16:48:03 see http://ngaro.jottit.com/ for some (older) notes on the I/O ports 16:51:03 or, more recent: http://feedbooks.com/userbook/1004 16:51:51 (the second link is the manual from 10.0 release; the I/O parts haven't changed much) 16:54:13 ok :) 16:54:22 thanks 16:54:32 and bye ;) 16:54:56 --- quit: benny99 (Client Quit) 16:58:18 * crc is going to put out a binary snapshot for console targets. (Windows, Linux [x86], OS X [ppc/ppc64/x86], Java, MIDP, and .NET) 17:07:16 --- join: nighty__ (n=nighty@210.188.173.245) joined #retro 17:07:40 hi nighty__ 17:09:18 hi 17:50:18 binaries for all basic platforms, other than Win32, are up at http://retroforth.org/binaries 17:50:25 along with the latest image file 17:59:23 --- quit: crc ("goodnight") 21:09:33 --- quit: nighty__ (Excess Flood) 21:10:03 --- join: nighty__ (n=nighty@210.188.173.245) joined #retro 22:29:37 --- quit: nighty__ (Remote closed the connection) 23:31:04 --- join: nighty__ (n=nighty@210.188.173.245) joined #retro 23:59:59 --- log: ended retro/09.06.23