00:00:00 --- log: started retro/08.11.13 00:10:47 --- quit: Quartus () 02:14:06 --- quit: lukeparrish (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02:39:12 --- join: virl (n=virl__@chello062178085149.1.12.vie.surfer.at) joined #retro 03:06:06 --- quit: nighty__ (Client Quit) 03:40:33 --- join: crc (i=d8012b82@pdpc/supporter/active/crc) joined #retro 03:40:33 --- mode: ChanServ set +o crc 06:17:40 --- join: lukeparrish (n=opera@74-36-0-167.dr01.hmdl.id.frontiernet.net) joined #retro 06:17:54 --- mode: ChanServ set +o lukeparrish 06:52:15 --- join: Mat2 (i=a02d56c8@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7247d0f78158fe59) joined #retro 06:52:42 hello everyone ! 06:53:48 hi Mat 06:55:42 Hi ! 06:56:15 I want to ask about the status of these BerliOS account ? 06:56:22 and how are you ? 06:59:10 --- quit: nighty^ ("Disappears in a puff of smoke") 06:59:35 --- join: nighty^ (n=nighty@x122091.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) joined #retro 07:04:11 I still haven't recieved a response from BerliOS 07:04:25 I'm going to try again with a different email address 07:08:52 good morning 07:09:10 good morning !° 07:10:15 (unless you're on the other side of the world from me, then good evening or whatever is most appropriate) :P 07:11:07 otoh it's 8am and daylight savings time is finally over, so one could argue that half the day is gone already :P 07:12:16 is berlios somewhat like sourceforge? 07:12:25 YES 07:12:29 sorry for the caps 07:12:35 good morning is just fine here (to much work, to less time to sleep) 07:14:58 crc, i'm working on a new compiler (think you know) and be a bit puzzled if I can implement it for retro too. 07:18:29 mean -> i'm unsure about the best way to implement the extended instructions and there incorporation for retro 07:20:44 my plan is to compile the new instructions to native code and let the compiler generate a new opcode for every new word 07:20:53 what'S your opinion ? 07:25:55 ok, work is waiting, ciao 07:26:06 --- quit: Mat2 ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 07:29:45 crc: in what ways does retro 10 differ from toka? Is toka considered a seperate language? 07:29:55 yes 07:30:08 I know they're both forths 07:30:31 toka grew from my need for an assembler for ngaro :) 07:30:42 toka has more use of anonymous functions, and things like garbage collection, right? 07:30:44 ahh 07:31:02 so toka is the assembler for ngaro which is the vm for retro 10? 07:31:46 toka is a forth that just happens to run the assembler 07:32:28 retro9 proved insufficient as a host for the assembler, so I developed toka to fill the gap 07:32:59 ( assembler ( toka ( ngaro ( retro10 ) ) ) ) 07:33:04 toka is useful to me for a lot of tasks, especially as it can interface with C nicely 07:37:11 does it serve as retro's interface to c? 07:40:13 dumb question 07:40:31 it's written in c source code though right? 07:42:07 (of course, I knew that... looking in the retro-dev-kit stuff) 07:49:24 toka is written in C 07:49:32 retro doesn't talk to toka at this point 07:50:05 the assembler/cross compiler is a toka program 07:50:18 which takes the retro source and builds it into an ngaro image 07:50:50 there are other toka programs to extract/merge blocks into images, convert an image to javascript, etc 07:51:11 toka is my utility language. I have dozens of small scripts to help with boring tasks 07:51:57 cool 08:11:10 I installed toka using the msi image. is there a quick way to get the bootstrap file loaded? 08:14:00 --- quit: nighty^ ("Disappears in a puff of smoke") 08:14:20 --- join: nighty^ (n=nighty@x122091.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) joined #retro 08:16:45 oh, KEEN. toka has scrollback! 08:17:30 --- quit: virl (Remote closed the connection) 08:19:33 what are the advantages of using retro 10 over toka? is it just the fact that retro 10 runs on ngaro? 08:24:02 cool, it compiles toka under mingw 08:27:25 hey, tab-completion in toka would be cool 08:35:18 compiling pdcurses to see if I can build retro 10 under mingw 08:43:31 tab completion can be had using rlwrap 08:44:03 retro10 has no real advantages at this point. but it's the base for a lot of things I have up my sleeve (including playing a role in the next version of toka) 08:49:30 lunch, bbl 08:49:34 cool 08:49:36 ok see ya 08:49:36 --- quit: crc ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 09:32:11 --- join: crc (i=d8012b82@pdpc/supporter/active/crc) joined #retro 09:32:11 --- mode: ChanServ set +o crc 09:47:00 --- part: lukeparrish left #retro 09:53:19 --- join: lukeparrish (n=opera@74-36-0-167.dr01.hmdl.id.frontiernet.net) joined #retro 09:53:36 --- mode: ChanServ set +o lukeparrish 09:57:03 thus far it's been a royal pain to try and get a curses library working under mingw 10:13:26 I don't do much with Windows 10:13:54 I use Dev-C++ to build ngaro on windows; it has a pdcurses package 10:22:35 hmm 10:22:46 that's what I'm using now, but it is spitting out errors 10:23:49 http://retroforth.com/paste/?id=545 10:26:37 cya later 10:37:39 are you using the pdcurses devpack? 10:37:51 which version of dev-c++? 10:38:25 that looks like a linker error... 10:38:36 make sure the linker flags are set to: -lcurses 11:08:01 --- join: neceve (n=ncv@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 11:17:04 --- quit: neceve (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11:44:54 --- quit: crc ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 12:31:11 --- join: virl (n=virl__@chello062178085149.1.12.vie.surfer.at) joined #retro 15:27:37 --- join: sixforty (n=sixforty@adsl-99-185-66-38.dsl.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net) joined #retro 15:28:36 --- quit: sixforty (Client Quit) 16:11:33 --- join: nighty__ (n=nighty@210.188.173.245) joined #retro 19:04:42 I was trying to simply run make from the msys console 23:59:59 --- log: ended retro/08.11.13