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13:27:19 <Dolphin> Hello,  I was wondering if someone could tell me why the Java implementation of Ngaro is split into Ngaro.bottom and Ngaro.top .
14:52:28 <crc> Because I suck at Java and needed a way to insert the image into the class
14:53:02 <crc> I'm going to redo the Java implementation soon
15:01:43 <Dolphin> My 2 cents.  If you plan to redo the Java, I'd vote for an eclipse based project and either a swing or SWT ui, rather than the Applet.  The value I see in the Java based implementation is that it may be easier to step through in a debugger and to understand all the opcodes. 
15:05:17 <crc> I have to learn Java again, this was the first thing I've written in it since the days of the JDK 1.0.1
15:27:52 <Dolphin> Do you know if the J2ME version was ported from the Java or the JS version?
17:39:42 <Dolphin> what is the endian for the image file?
17:40:01 <Dolphin> i'm looking at jul 27th
18:05:08 <Dolphin> hmm. looks like little endian from my hex editor. java devs take note.
18:39:08 <crc> the j2me version was based on the js version
19:05:02 <Dolphin> fyi: I converted the java impl to use swing and I refactored it a bit. I also have it reading from an image file and adjusted for little endian (java by default looks big endian). 
19:06:17 <Dolphin> the image file is read from the classpath so it could be bundled into a jar along with the classes.
19:30:22 <Dolphin> I'm wondering what the purpose of this line is: 
19:30:41 <Dolphin> tInput.setText("  " + a + "  `");
19:31:38 <Dolphin> i'm guessing the first bit is to force a delimiter, and similar with the trailing space, and maybe the backtick is for end of input.
19:39:51 <Dolphin> ah. found a defect.  in handleDevices()  
19:40:18 <Dolphin> if(a == "`")  is wrong type of equals comparison for objects should be 
19:40:35 <Dolphin> if("`".equals(a)) 
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