00:00:00 --- log: started retro/08.07.09 02:36:13 --- quit: crc_test ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") 05:27:53 --- quit: nighty__ (Client Quit) 06:49:33 --- quit: virl ("Verlassend") 12:27:09 --- join: virl (n=virl__@chello062178085149.1.12.vie.surfer.at) joined #retro 19:56:57 I fixed a few errors in the stack comments in the documentation, and added some stuff on the new .inline class 20:22:19 I also merged several modules (array, scope, std-ext, whitespace) into a single 'common' extensions module 20:22:38 and removed a module that is no longer relevant (its functionality is part of the retro code now) 20:23:10 Hi. :) 20:23:27 hi Ray 20:23:27 * Raystm2 is creating content for c4thWiki. 20:23:31 good 20:23:46 See colorforth.net for what i'm doing, if you get a chance. 20:23:51 I'm going to add ties to the blog soon 20:23:58 Oh neat. 20:23:59 I subscribe to the rss feed :) 20:24:15 cool. Please let me know when I drop off of track. :) 20:24:53 ok 20:25:20 I'm mostly working on finishing up what will become the first "stable" release of retro 10 20:25:29 excellent. :) 20:25:39 * crc is hoping to have a polished release ready by early august for linux, bsd, windows, and mac 20:25:40 I saw you added the windows executable. 20:25:44 yeah 20:26:03 I need to play in the new play ground. Maybe I will as a break from this research. 20:26:43 I read up on what your friend from Germany ( name escapes me just now) and Wow! 20:26:53 what he did that is. 20:26:53 things are progressing nicely there :) 20:27:11 his vm is significantly expanded now (no longer misc), but it holds promise 20:27:31 * crc expects it to fork off into something nice, kind of like reva did a few years back 20:27:37 Amazing what one person can add. 20:27:53 Sure. That makes total sence. 20:29:49 a killer ap would put you over the top, but I suppose that's true in any coded project. duh! :) 20:30:54 I keep thinking about a small - 3-5 man - team creating ubiquitus(sp?) software, meaning it running on everything. 20:32:02 Ngaro will provide a baseline framework for that eventually 20:32:17 indeed. 20:32:30 (especially for console applications) 20:32:41 with it retro runs on all major platforms 20:33:28 Entertainment... that's a biggie. But also assistance progies too, like mapping and info finding, and gosh I should quit because it's all so obvious. 20:34:14 I want to do native palm and windows mobile versions of the vm later this year 20:35:02 that'll let me cover 90% of the mobile pda's and phones (via javascript, j2me, or native ngaro implementations) 20:35:54 WriteOnceUbiquitousNextgenControlEnvironment, WOUNCE pronounced once. lol :) 20:36:38 Okay, that one is forced... 20:37:31 Retro - Usable Nearly Everywhere (RUNE) 20:37:44 Sweet! 20:38:46 I don't plan to create a killer app. I just want to provide nice, small tools that others can use to create good programs 20:38:58 I understand. :) 20:39:01 (and have a platform I can teach to my kids one day) 20:39:06 but someone will. 20:39:13 Oh cool! 20:39:27 How is the family? 20:39:33 they're great 20:39:39 I'm not, but they are :) 20:39:58 Well, that's the suffering we must do, I suppose. 20:40:11 How is your health, lately? 20:40:52 not good. the metformin for the blood sugar isn't working well at all (I'm averaging 300-400, even after 10 hours without eating anything) 20:41:09 and my carpal tunnel is getting significantly worse 20:41:18 !!! 20:41:20 oh my? 20:41:52 Sorry to hear. 20:42:09 about a third of the time I have no feeling, or just numbness in my hands 20:42:22 Will you be trying other meds? (dumb question) I mean working with a doc? 20:42:34 I know the feeling. 20:42:42 I'll be discussing it with the doctor sometime soon I hope 20:42:46 My hands are not nearly as bad as my feet. 20:43:53 Okay, cool. Cause, as far as conversations i've had with my Doc, and as long as youv'e been on Metformin, you should have prob'ly had a meeting on how well the medication is doing by now. 20:44:09 I know it takes a while... 20:44:33 Metforming started to help right away for me. 20:44:47 I stopped eating like I was... changed my diet. 20:45:03 Truth be known... 20:45:06 it helped for a while, but lately it isn't working as well 20:45:30 I have no idea what my level is because I stopped treating myself about january. 20:45:40 We've upped the dosage (4 pills a day instead of 2), but no real luck 20:45:43 truth be known. 20:45:49 Oh I see. 20:45:51 and they give me diarreah 20:45:57 ya, i know. 20:45:58 which makes life more miserable 20:46:02 indeed. 20:46:08 part of the reason I stopped. 20:46:24 I thinking I can control totally with diet and exercise. 20:46:53 but i've not been testing to be sure it's working, prefering to go by feeling. 20:47:17 metformin was not making me feel good, and I was always sugar crashing. 20:47:28 or lack there of that is. 20:47:41 getting down around 40 and sometimes lower. 20:47:48 I felt bad. 20:48:15 Soon as I stopped, I started to get numb-er but I feel better overall. 20:48:54 I'm scared of getting an infection though. 20:51:32 I understand 20:51:43 I've seen where doctors are worried that your generation and younger will actually have a shorter agerage life span, basically due to diet and exercise or lack there of. 20:54:28 I also have been arguing the fact with Sam Falvo that modern economics is the real driving factor, with both parents needing to work just to lose ground daily. 20:55:28 in our family, I'm the only one who works 20:55:32 When you have a parent at home, you have a life coach that can help you while you are younge until you can help yourself. ( Some time in your thirties if you ask me. ) 20:55:54 I was too, until i was sick. 20:55:57 I make about 45k/year now and we make ends meet with enough to save a little and still do fun things 20:56:25 I didn't know I was sick 5 years ago when I joined you good folks here in irc, but I was. 20:57:00 That's excellent crc. That IS the American dream then. You are doing quite well, health aside. 20:57:30 I pray that you can maintain. :) 20:57:40 I pray abundance for you! 20:57:49 In all things@ 20:57:50 ! 21:06:20 * crc needs to go to bed; ttyl 21:12:55 okay :) 21:54:39 --- join: dolphin (i=20616e8e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4ab33a2540e0d397) joined #retro 21:55:17 --- quit: dolphin (Client Quit) 23:59:59 --- log: ended retro/08.07.09