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10:28:43 <Raystm2> We have snow.
10:31:40 <Raystm2> We also have Nick Maroudas' disk in a P1 and reading it. 
10:34:13 <Raystm2> for your viewing pleasure, I have uploaded a zipfile to http://colorforthray.info/new_site/Nick.zip
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11:45:40 <crc> good afternoong
11:45:46 <crc> *afternoon
11:45:56 <Raystm2> Hi crc. 
11:46:08 * Raystm2 playing with colorforth'05
11:47:30 <Raystm2> I talked to Mitch Bradley of Sun Microsystems last night about writing colorforth in the openFirmware Bios of OLPC. 
11:48:40 <Raystm2> He suggested that many of the students may want a developers key to bypass security, but that the audience for that kind of development level would be small, and suggested that I do an emulation.
11:49:55 <Raystm2> Prolly, first, I'll transpose Mark Slicker's xCF to the linux like os, prove concept, then apply for a machine to go to the lowest ring level.
11:50:16 <Raystm2> This way you can run it in both worlds.
11:50:35 <Raystm2> How are you today?
11:50:42 <crc> not too bad
11:51:10 <crc> I have diabetes (was tested last week)  :(
11:51:15 <Raystm2> No kidding?
11:51:31 <Raystm2> Boy! how was the test results?
11:51:32 <crc> no. after 12 hours of fasting, my blood sugar was at 209
11:51:55 <Raystm2> definately hi.
11:52:17 <Raystm2> Another club we too belong to.
11:52:22 <Raystm2> two even.
11:52:26 <crc> average of 260 for the month so far
11:52:29 <crc> yeah
11:52:45 <Raystm2> about 3 times human limit or so.
11:52:47 <crc> on monday I should start being able to take some medicine to help regulate it
11:53:00 <Raystm2> What about exercise, you get any at all?
11:53:08 <Raystm2> Metformin?
11:53:10 <crc> sometimes. I am a member of a gym
11:53:23 <Raystm2> that's good.
11:53:34 <crc> yeah, metformin
11:53:40 <Raystm2> that's what I take.
11:53:50 <Raystm2> Keeps the liver from dumping sugar so fast.
11:54:01 <Raystm2> will you have to check and stick?
11:54:33 * Raystm2 means meter and needle.
11:55:10 <crc> yeah
11:55:18 <Raystm2> 4times a day?
11:55:33 <crc> minimum of twice daily, preferably three times
11:55:58 <Raystm2> I see. You are way too young for this, Heck I"M too young for this.
11:56:12 <Raystm2> Any Parpheral Neuropathy?
11:56:14 <crc> it's not too bad though. the testing device I have doesn't need much blood
11:56:20 <crc> not that I'm aware of
11:56:40 <Raystm2> paripheral soory.
11:56:44 <Raystm2> sorry.
11:57:05 <Raystm2> it's pain in toes up to scrodum from nerve damage.
11:58:02 <Raystm2> Cool thing is there is more and more foods everyday at the market that show the Diabetic Box for trading off carbs and the like.
11:58:39 <Raystm2> you can have practically everything you want, but you'd be surprised at how much . :)
11:58:57 <Raystm2> Have you seen a dietitian yet?
12:00:02 <crc> not yet
12:00:05 <Raystm2> Snowed here today. 3 inches or so. first all year.
12:00:16 <Raystm2> only took about 4 hours.
12:00:24 <crc> cool. I'm waiting for snow here (it'll likely be a while...)
12:00:24 <Raystm2> started with thunder and lightning.
12:00:30 <Raystm2> I see.
12:03:14 <Raystm2> My Neuropathetic pain is bad enough that I take a seperate medication for that, another for depression, and my doctor wants me to start smoking marijuana. Colorado says I can have 6 plants. lol There is a compassion club that serves people with problems as bad as mine.
12:03:42 <Raystm2> I don't want to even take the pills, never mind start smoking something.
12:05:01 <Raystm2> The reason for the MJ is that I can't keep food down, and have absolutely no appetite. I have to force myself to eat anything anymore.
12:05:35 <Raystm2> I've ruined myself for my bosses, with absolutely very little to show for it 'cept the pain.
12:06:36 <Raystm2> And I stay dry. Mouth, skin, I never sweat no matter how hot it is. 
12:06:50 <Raystm2> Moisterizing all the time...
12:07:06 <Raystm2> this is all realated to the D2
12:07:31 <Raystm2> It can be pretty severe if you go as long as I have with out diagnosis.
12:09:51 <crc> hopefully I won't get that bad
12:10:21 * crc is trying to finish toka 1.2
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16:21:46 <Raystm2> Games are over. Baseball left. GO! RED SOX!
16:22:18 <Raystm2> Go! crc and TOKA1.2!
16:31:41 <crc> the implementation is solid, I just need to finish updating documentation :(
16:32:33 <crc> windows and beos support both seem to work, but it's not tested enough on those yet
16:44:07 <Raystm2> I will have fun taking a break from Nick's disk and test it here in a bit. 
16:44:34 <Raystm2> I can't wait to get my head back around it. I remember it fondly actually and think it is quite brilliant.
16:44:47 <Raystm2> Well done!
16:47:02 <crc> I'll upload the latest source+docs
16:48:05 <crc> http://charleschilders.com/toka-1.2-rc.tar.gz
16:48:46 <crc> it should build just fine under cygwin, in either win32 or cygwin mode.
16:49:42 <crc> if you build it for native win32, you need to put toka.exe and bootstrap.toka into c:\toka
16:49:48 <Raystm2> That's very cool. I should test both ways then.
16:49:57 <crc> and any libraries you want to try into c:\toka\library\
16:50:24 * crc notes that none of the hybrid libraries are tested on win32. Some should work under cygwin though
16:50:28 <Raystm2> I see. Cool trade off. 
16:50:34 <Raystm2> sorry door. brb
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