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22:33:58 <Raystm2> Hey Roger. How the heck are ya?
22:34:17 <rabbitwhite> good
22:34:22 * Raystm2 working on...
22:34:24 <Raystm2> http://retroforth.com/paste/?id=396
22:35:47 <rabbitwhite> although i know i'm totally ignorant...
22:36:03 <rabbitwhite> that code reads like complete nonsense
22:36:24 <Raystm2> its new! it's crc's new appoach and it's cool.
22:36:30 <Raystm2> getting link...
22:36:52 <Raystm2> http://charleschilders.com:9812/
22:37:08 <Raystm2> that website is being served by the toka language.
22:39:28 <Raystm2> http://charleschilders.com:9812/book.html
22:39:37 <Raystm2> prob'ly best point of entry
22:50:05 <Raystm2> If you get a collission trying to load a page don't wait for it to load. reload it and I'll stop colliding with you :) it's running on a toka server.
22:50:15 <Raystm2> How ya been? 
22:50:17 <rabbitwhite> ok, well, it sounds like a good web language i guess
22:50:36 <Raystm2> I'm still learning it.
22:50:58 <rabbitwhite> fine working on gc forth, now it has a new name but i'm keeping it under wraps til the beta
22:51:02 <Raystm2> What are you working on lately?
22:51:17 <Raystm2> cool, cool.
22:52:14 <Raystm2> I've been meaning to ask if you still have any of the old Glypher files from back when you were developing it?
22:52:28 <rabbitwhite> uh, sure, i have all of them
22:52:45 <Raystm2> I've got a usage for Glypher :)
22:52:55 <rabbitwhite> thought you had the latest version?
22:53:10 <Raystm2> I draw my guitar chords with it. and that's what I use to show my guitar students.
22:53:28 <rabbitwhite> that is amazing, i almost don't believe that
22:53:35 <rabbitwhite> haha,
22:53:38 <rabbitwhite> i guess it must be not all that bad
22:53:47 <rabbitwhite> the language i mean
22:55:10 <Raystm2> I wrote a br***fuck like language with it called P'' and that turned into an extreamly simple editor.
22:59:32 <rabbitwhite> well, cool, so you've been staying creative
23:00:02 <Raystm2> ya. 
23:01:07 <Raystm2> I guess what I was asking about the files was, how is this built exactly? do you recall and do you even care to tell me? :)
23:01:44 <rabbitwhite> uh, i think it was just a modified version of RetroForth
23:01:47 <Raystm2> What compiles the glypher.exe
23:01:57 <rabbitwhite> whatever compiled retroforth
23:02:04 <Raystm2> oh you rewrote retroforth?
23:02:06 <Raystm2> oh oka.
23:05:35 <rabbitwhite> so
23:05:49 <Raystm2> sorry, was reading your code. 
23:06:02 <Raystm2> Okay if I have this it goes...
23:07:10 <Raystm2> the glypher.exe is retroforth extended to read in a file, compress it, read in the template and execute it?
23:08:02 <rabbitwhite> i think you meant decompress
23:09:21 <Raystm2> I was refering to a line at the top of the file glypher_03.otl.
23:10:19 <Raystm2> it says, H=( Header )" 
23:10:19 <Raystm2> " glypher_03.otl read " glypher.z compress
23:10:25 <rabbitwhite> oh
23:10:55 <Raystm2> Am I right in thinking the compressed file is glypher_03.otl just compressed?
23:11:02 <rabbitwhite> yeah, that would make sense
23:11:09 <rabbitwhite> its really stupid, theres no point in it
23:11:24 <rabbitwhite> just efficiency obsession
23:11:25 <Raystm2> No wait now, this is cool.
23:12:18 <Raystm2> You have a closed executable with a very open configuration file that produces code pages that can save themselves. It's not bad. 
23:13:00 <Raystm2> It just so happens you found the one an only fan of the language. hehe,
23:13:20 <Raystm2> WHat are the odds. :) 
23:20:51 <Raystm2> Pardon me, I was just update some stuff here.
23:21:01 <rabbitwhite> no prob
23:21:04 <Raystm2> So, man, What's new .
23:21:08 <rabbitwhite> oh
23:21:09 <rabbitwhite> well
23:21:14 <rabbitwhite> i just wanted to announce my blog here, actually
23:21:22 <rabbitwhite> my NEW, blog
23:21:31 <Raystm2> drum rollllllllllllll
23:22:00 <Raystm2> == rollllllllllllll
23:22:17 <rabbitwhite> well
23:22:33 <Raystm2> da-ta-da-da!
23:22:38 <rabbitwhite> i wanted to post it in a place where everyone would see it
23:22:50 <rabbitwhite> if i placed it here..
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23:23:06 <Raystm2> Ya here is good but everyone is in #forth i believe an thats a bitt better 
23:23:10 <rabbitwhite> ok
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23:31:04 <virl> fine, and I'm was banned from #forth. ah, shit.
23:31:45 <virl> well, what is the link to rabbitwhites new blog?
23:32:11 <Raystm2> http://gcforth.blogspot.com/
23:32:22 <Raystm2> Hey virl how ya been ?
23:33:27 <virl> I'm quite fine
23:35:45 <Raystm2> cool i've been working on this... http://retroforth.com/paste/?id=395
23:36:14 <Raystm2> but im reading rabbitwhite's site right now. Trying to catch up :)
23:38:01 <virl> it's a  colorful forth
23:38:51 <Raystm2> it is.
23:38:54 <Raystm2> it's fun.
23:39:06 <Raystm2> no wait read that functional.
23:40:19 <Raystm2> with the BNF parser i'll define a functional programming language based on lambda calculus and then I will have a meta-language creator that uses bnf for syntax and fp for semantics. and of course toka to be on lots of machines 
23:40:56 <Raystm2> proving that forth is the ultimate language language. 
23:41:19 <rabbitwhite> what is BNF???
23:41:28 <Raystm2> I will switch effortlessly from algebraicless terms to forth constructions to descriptions of interfaces that run.
23:41:38 <rabbitwhite> and why does it have to be such an opaque acronym?
23:41:46 <Raystm2> Backus-Naur Form.
23:41:53 <rabbitwhite> oh
23:41:55 <rabbitwhite> sorry i asked
23:41:59 <Raystm2> It's famoud Dude :)
23:42:02 <Raystm2> ya :)
23:42:07 <Raystm2> famous even.
23:42:34 <Raystm2> I just finished a test version in toka.
23:42:38 <virl> iirc he died this year
23:43:07 <Raystm2> toka is a garbage collected forth with a functional language like feel.
23:43:24 <Raystm2> written in c to run on the most platforms as possible 
23:43:37 <rabbitwhite> ha
23:43:42 <rabbitwhite> and i'm working on its antithesis!
23:44:00 <Raystm2> it allows EVERY level of abstraction and degree of depth to machine level and above.
23:44:06 <rabbitwhite> but there is no contention, everyone has fun in their own way :)
23:44:12 <virl> a in assembler written forth?
23:44:30 <rabbitwhite> yeah, with focus on a single platform and a single narrow purpose
23:44:40 <rabbitwhite> and with plain old black and white forth
23:44:54 <rabbitwhite> with some c4th and FORTH '79 thrown in
23:44:58 <rabbitwhite> and some machine forth
23:45:29 <virl> some machine forth? I don't recall how machine forth does look like
23:45:43 <rabbitwhite> i make use of the A register
23:45:55 <rabbitwhite> and >r r> is push pop
23:46:00 <Raystm2> I like the a reg.
23:46:11 <rabbitwhite> me too .  i consider it to be part of forth now
23:46:18 <Raystm2> right good.
23:46:23 <rabbitwhite> not everyone would agree, but i like it
23:46:40 <rabbitwhite> anyway going now
23:46:41 <rabbitwhite> nite
23:46:45 <Raystm2> how are you on the whole passive if statements?
23:46:47 <Raystm2> gn :)
23:46:59 <rabbitwhite> passive if statements?
23:47:00 <virl> so there isn't a return stack but only one register?
23:47:24 <Raystm2> a colorforth idea you know. if statement that don't consume there arguments on the if test.
23:47:28 <rabbitwhite> no
23:47:31 <rabbitwhite> its classic
23:47:38 <rabbitwhite> but optimizes dup's out
23:47:43 <Raystm2> oh I didn't know :)
23:47:58 <Raystm2> ya dups and drops fix each other
23:48:15 <rabbitwhite> it's just good ok?  you'll see.
23:48:25 <rabbitwhite> its fast and thats what matters
23:48:31 <rabbitwhite> i have to go
23:48:32 <rabbitwhite> bye
23:48:39 <Raystm2> Ok reading site don't be a stranger :)
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