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08:11:52 --- topic: 'RetroForth | Pastebin @ http://retroforth.net/paste | The editing key is 'despair''
08:11:52 --- topic: set by crc on [Sat Aug 05 13:13:30 2006]
08:11:52 --- names: list (clog nighty_ Cheery Quartus Snoopy42 timlarson virl @crc lukeparrish Quartus__ nighty @Raystm2 @ChanServ Shain)
10:02:44 <crc> good afternoon
10:11:21 <Cheery> hi crc
10:11:50 <crc> hi Cheery
10:12:17 <Cheery> do you have new version around about rx?
10:12:20 <crc> I'm cleaning up the C part of RxForth a bit at present
10:12:29 <crc> the newest rx core is the one in RxForth
10:12:32 <Cheery> And what do you think about the VM -system I introduced few days ago?
10:12:39 <crc> I am considering it
10:12:46 <Cheery> I think I'm going to do an experimental implementation on rx to test that concept.
10:12:50 <crc> cool
10:13:01 <Cheery> It shouldn't be big thing. ^^ If I know what I'm thinking.
10:13:02 * crc would like to see the results of your experiment when it's ready
10:13:21 <Cheery> I'd like to show them when they are ready, of course. :)
10:30:07 <Quartus> Jebus. There's a lot of stupid in #forth today.
10:30:59 <crc> yup
10:32:18 <Cheery> have you seen kamaelia python project yet?
10:32:57 <Cheery> It's intresting thing to programming concurrent systems in python.
10:33:00 <crc> no
10:33:32 <virl> python projects, some read like black magic or obscure magic.
10:34:04 <Cheery> quite simple thing, you have those microprocesses, then you make very simple message passing system and make modules you can weld together.
10:34:53 <Cheery> after that you make pipelining and interface request -stuff for making whole full of concurrent systems.
10:35:39 <Cheery> kamaelia.sf.net
10:37:55 <Cheery> btw, crc, I have an little question, are the class functions like .forth, .data, .macro, etc. vectored words?
10:38:13 <crc> yes
10:38:53 <Cheery> excellent, then doing a VM -system is not hard by that part.
10:41:55 <Cheery> or I'm not sure whether I need those as vectored... hmm. possibly easier thing would be to make a kind of it's own parser to make the string sequence.
10:42:20 <Cheery> to be parsed.
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16:28:57 <erider> hi all 
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17:42:47 <crc> good evening
18:00:45 <lukeparrish> hello
19:19:04 <Raystm2> To late to say hi?
19:27:15 <crc> no
19:27:35 <Raystm2> Ready for the week ahead?
19:27:47 <crc> sadly, yes
19:27:56 <Raystm2> :) I know the thought.
19:28:11 <Raystm2> Be nice to get paid to play everyday. 
19:28:18 <crc> yeah
19:28:34 <Raystm2> You'll get there, of that i have no doubt.
19:29:09 <Raystm2> Keep refineing. working on it. Some way to pay you will present itself.
19:29:46 * Raystm2 /end Chinese Fortune Cookie mode.
19:30:18 <Raystm2> RxForth is way cool.
19:30:34 <Raystm2> I haven't run it yet... But I've been reading it.
19:31:36 <Raystm2> I've been playing with my old favs the last few days: colorforth, Glypher, Enth/Flux, colorForth'05...
19:32:12 <Raystm2> I'm trying to work out coding a few things in the same ways over all those and Retro too. 
19:32:42 <Raystm2> So that I can discuss them together, and have a reference that anyone can follow between them.
19:37:16 <crc> a good idea
19:37:41 * crc is working on cleaning up the C part of RxForth a bit
19:38:16 <Quartus> What would PoppaVic say about that!
19:38:50 <crc> I could care less what PoppaVic has to say
19:39:00 <Quartus> I believe you.
19:39:21 <crc> I have actually thought of banning him...
19:39:46 <Quartus> I would have today if I'd been at my main terminal.  I'm not logged in as an op on my remote machine.
19:46:04 * Raystm2 distracted by Lindsey Buckingham, recorded on Soundstage by Nan for me. 
19:46:07 <Raystm2> Hi Quartus. :)
19:46:12 <Quartus> Hi Raystm2.
19:46:50 <Raystm2> I'm a good guitarist, not ashamed to mention that, but I'm not Lindsey good yet. :)
19:47:22 <Raystm2> I play a few of his things, but not like he does. 
19:50:36 <Raystm2> Be cool to do an artistic production piece including music and forth. Don't know how i'd proceed, but sounds interesting to me
19:50:37 <Raystm2> .
19:53:39 <Raystm2> I think arke positioned himself for the PVic kill but was patient and Vic just left anyway. PV might have felt the strike comming on.
19:53:55 <Quartus> He contributes nothing, and he's abusive. I'm fed up.
19:54:14 <timlarson> he is largely why I left #forth
19:54:44 <Quartus> Perhaps I should just go ahead and enter his ban info now.
19:54:45 <Raystm2> Hi timlarson. 
19:54:50 <timlarson> hi :)
19:54:53 <crc> Quartus: go right ahead
19:55:07 <Raystm2> okay, i'm voting go as well.
19:55:47 <Quartus> I don't have his info on record -- my logs don't keep it.  I'll check clog.
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19:57:26 <Quartus> Just found that, thanks.  I am too much of an op novice to know how to initiate a ban when the person isn't in the channel. :)
19:58:05 <Raystm2> hehe, found it too, i'll spare you.,.. 
19:59:20 <crc> msg chanserv with "AUTOREM <channel> ADD <mask> [reason]"
19:59:38 <Raystm2> I hate to think about how many others have gone, never to return over PV.
19:59:42 <Quartus> pete@*il.us.da.qwest.net a suitable mask?
20:00:10 <crc> I would think so
20:00:18 <Raystm2> reason? General consensus.
20:00:30 <Quartus> I don't plan to put a reason in, as I don't know if it needs quotation marks or not. :)
20:00:42 <Quartus> But inappropriate behaviour would cover it.
20:01:25 <Raystm2> Do it for the children, we can't forget the children.
20:01:39 <Quartus> Done.
20:01:45 <Quartus> brb
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20:03:05 <Quartus> Curiously nothing shows in the banlist for the channel.  Guess chanserv just quietly takes care of it.
20:03:18 <crc> autorem list #forth
20:03:23 <crc> autorem #forth list
20:03:24 <crc> sorry
20:03:28 <Raystm2> hmm.
20:03:35 <Quartus> Right, msg to chanserv.  WOrks.
20:03:39 <crc> chanserv should take care of the ban/removal automatically from now on
20:03:44 <Quartus> Neat.
20:04:36 <Quartus> futhin asked me a whle ago why he hadn't been banned; I really couldn't come up with a good answer.
20:05:16 <Raystm2> why pv hadn't been banned or futhin hadn't been banned?
20:05:24 <crc> I never bothered to ban him; I was hoping he'd start making sense one day
20:05:25 <Quartus> Why pv hadn't been.
20:05:34 <Quartus> crc, I guess I hoped that too.
20:05:44 <Raystm2> I know I did.
20:06:09 <Raystm2> I argued against Quartus once over Pv. I lost. :)
20:06:28 <Raystm2> Can't beat good logic. 
20:06:31 <Quartus> I'm sure he can start up #crazy and still hold forth on whatever topic amuses him.
20:06:36 <Quartus> Did you Raystm2? I don't recall.
20:06:59 <Raystm2> Wasn't much of an argument, You made your case swiftly and accurately.
20:07:21 <Raystm2> I suppose I looked on Pv like the town drunk. Otis complex.
20:07:49 <Quartus> It's not tough.  What irks me far more than his abusive language is the fact that he's driven off newcomers with complete incoherent (and incorrect, in case the distinction needs to be made) blither.
20:08:11 <Raystm2> Ya. The logs will be cleaner now...
20:09:29 <Quartus> In a channel of several hundred, you expect a crackpot or two, but then there's plenty of antibodies around to counter the blither.  In #forth, one crackpot may go unchecked for hours before somebody notices and says something.
20:09:52 <Raystm2> Yes, indeed.
20:10:05 <Quartus> And even then, the newcomer is faced with one guy saying one thing, and another saying another, and how's he to know that one of them is the town drunk?
20:11:28 <Raystm2> Well, you jailed him now, Sheriff, so i'll just Barney Fife my way on over to this forth and ... Opps just shot myself in the leg. haha
20:12:05 <Quartus> If he was jailed he'd have to be fed & exercised and such.  Too much trouble.  He's free, just as we now are too.
20:12:29 <Raystm2> Well put. 
20:12:47 <Quartus> Now you'll have to take over as the crazy-ass cracker, Ray.  Get to it. :)
20:14:10 <Raystm2> Not a problem, not a problem. I'll order a propeller beany and get a bent for alcohol and start claiming i'm a forth god.
20:14:21 <Quartus> Make it wood alcohol.
20:14:55 <Raystm2> Is that better then grain? oh is it deadly?
20:14:58 <Quartus> You'll also need to move into a wooden shack with a single bare lightbulb, a wire-frame cot, and a subscription to Guns'N'Ammo.  Sorry, but it's protocol.
20:15:11 <Quartus> The lightbulb has to swing from a cord.
20:15:24 <Quartus> Curtains are optional, but extra points for painting the windows black.
20:15:25 <Raystm2> And I need to change my middle name to Wayne. Why is the middle name always Wayne?
20:15:34 <Quartus> Somehow the parents must know, Ray.
20:16:06 <Raystm2> Yikes I grew up in houses like you just described. 
20:16:25 <Quartus> A friend of mine says everyone she ever met named Gerry was sub-par.  She figures the parents must know.  They see the baby for the first time, and say "Damn, we got a Gerry."
20:16:32 <Raystm2> Self education, my only saving grace.
20:16:44 <Raystm2> AHAHAH
20:17:02 <Quartus> Not a Gerald, or a Jerome, mind you, but a Gerry.
20:18:20 <Raystm2> I've noticed in several movies, there is always the Ray character and sooner or later you always hear, "Damn it Ray, what could you be thinking?" and it makes me wonder about these writers and what they must think of Raymonds.
20:18:24 <Quartus> Now I expect to see    *** Gerry has quit IRC (Screw you!1!)
20:18:44 <Raystm2> hahahah
20:18:53 <Quartus> I thought Everybody Loves Raymond.  Perhaps I was mislead.
20:20:05 <Raystm2> I suppose that is also an oxymoronic phrase. Wing some qoutes around Loves...
20:20:23 <Quartus> Heh.
20:20:30 <Raystm2> and spell quotes properly...
20:21:17 <Raystm2> But I aint looking fer luv here, just some hard to find education.
20:22:14 <Raystm2> You want insanity? I hate my job enough to do forth to get out of it, and the forth future is not looking very bright for someone with my talents and contacts.
20:22:28 <Raystm2> AND age.
20:23:05 <Quartus> On the internet, nobody knows you're an old dog.
20:23:41 <Raystm2> Doesn't take long to figure out. I use punctuation. 
20:24:31 <timlarson> lol
20:24:44 <timlarson> that was a good one Raystm2, about the puctuation :)
20:24:51 <Raystm2> I hate my job because I can't physically do it anymore. :(
20:25:04 <timlarson> I guess that lets you know I am not a teenager either.
20:25:07 <Raystm2> hehe thanks Tim.
20:25:11 <Raystm2> Ya.
20:25:51 <Quartus> heh
20:26:06 <timlarson> (nothing against teenagers...I just am not one)
20:27:57 <lukeparrish> punctuation what's that LOL :)
20:36:12 <Quartus> ROTFLOL, isn't it?
20:36:45 <lukeparrish> I'm sure there's longer ones too. :)
20:43:38 <Raystm2> ROTFLMAOOLANDSNOTTY
20:45:07 <Raystm2> Tiffy wants to make that the title of a song.
20:45:20 <Raystm2> No point, has nothing to do with that, just is.
20:57:12 <timlarson> good night all, talk with you later :)
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20:59:25 <Raystm2> gn
21:33:06 <nighty_> Hi girls :)
22:20:03 <Quartus> hi nighty
22:43:37 <nighty_> :)
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