00:00:00 --- log: started retro/06.08.23 01:03:04 --- join: nighty (n=nighty@tin51-1-82-226-147-104.fbx.proxad.net) joined #retro 01:11:29 --- quit: Raystm2 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01:14:48 --- join: Raystm2 (n=NanRay@adsl-68-95-251-93.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) joined #retro 01:47:08 --- join: Cheery (n=Cheery@a81-197-19-23.elisa-laajakaista.fi) joined #retro 02:31:56 --- join: nighty_ (n=nighty@tin51-1-82-226-147-104.fbx.proxad.net) joined #retro 02:47:06 --- quit: nighty (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03:53:10 --- join: virl (n=virl@chello062178085149.1.12.vie.surfer.at) joined #retro 03:54:50 hello virl 03:57:31 --- nick: lukeparrish -> docl 04:36:34 hi docl 04:37:19 hey, how's it going? 04:38:38 well fine. I'm only lazy to bring pix further. 04:39:01 * docl is experimenting with polyphasic sleep, so I've been up all night 04:42:03 docl, aha? polyphastic sleep, which kind of sleeping is that? 04:42:15 more than one phase, like naps 04:42:19 and do you feel 'better' or worser than normal? 04:42:50 when I do short naps I have always a long time to get up 04:42:56 at the moment? not badly, but much less coherent. tired, in other words 04:43:18 * docl is restricting them to exactly 15 minutes 04:44:02 they are every 2 hours, so my next one is in 10 minutes 04:44:39 the standard polyphasic idea is to take 20 minute naps every 4 hours 04:45:30 aha.. 04:45:31 but that takes a lot of self-discipline. I'm trying to figure a way that takes less of that :) 04:46:08 I assume that you don't have the real feeling that it's day or night. 04:46:41 yeah I guess not 04:47:10 * docl just started today. I mean, yesterday :) 04:51:15 I think it would be a pita 04:51:20 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uberman's_sleep_schedule 04:51:34 pita is something bad, right? 04:52:07 (here in the us it's a kind of bread that makes really nice sandwiches) 04:53:00 ok I found the urban dictionary. yeah it's one of those. but so is sleeping at night... 04:53:13 ubermans sleep, well that has this 'ubermensch' taste of games like bloodrayne 04:53:24 hehe 04:55:14 well time for my nap 04:55:26 be back in a little while 04:57:20 ok.. 05:17:53 back 05:42:42 --- join: nighty- (n=nighty@tin51-1-82-226-147-104.fbx.proxad.net) joined #retro 05:47:38 and how did you sleep? 05:47:50 fine 05:48:10 not all of it was unconscious 05:48:41 20 minutes every 4 hours, that means 120 minutes a day. 05:48:54 yeah 05:49:08 2 hours a day total 05:49:30 so in fact you get lesser sleep than a person with a normal sleep 05:50:13 right 05:50:18 a *lot* less 05:50:31 --- quit: nighty_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 05:50:57 the idea is that the naps are more effective than normal sleep because they are evenly spaced 05:52:07 effective in which way? 05:52:28 in resting you up in shorter amounts of time 05:53:14 --- join: timlarson_ (n=timlarso@65.116.199.19) joined #retro 05:54:38 well I can't imagine that type of sleep for myself, I'm tired most of the day before I get active 05:55:59 yeah it's hard for me to imagine as well. 05:57:29 aha? 05:57:53 I usually take 8-10 hours sleep to get rested 05:58:10 I think sleep is something which depends on the person and not on a god-like system 05:58:27 in fact that's true to most of those things. 06:00:47 I'm more night active, at about 20 my brain starts really. 06:02:03 cool 06:02:09 what time is it where you are? 06:03:05 at the moment here it's 15h 06:03:23 or 3 pm 06:04:42 in some days school starts again and then I follow again it's annoying time. 06:05:52 it's fine that it's my last year. 06:25:33 --- join: Ray_work (n=Raystm2@199.227.227.26) joined #retro 07:03:21 --- nick: Raystm2 -> nanstm 07:15:16 --- quit: nanstm ("Should have paid the bill.") 07:16:32 --- join: Raystm2 (n=NanRay@adsl-68-95-251-93.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) joined #retro 07:17:31 --- nick: Raystm2 -> nanstm 08:32:56 --- join: Raystm2 (n=NanRay@adsl-68-93-122-48.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) joined #retro 08:36:09 --- quit: nanstm (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 08:40:41 --- nick: Raystm2 -> nanstm 09:04:42 --- quit: Snoopy42 (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 09:56:07 --- join: swsch (n=stefan@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/swsch) joined #retro 09:56:07 --- mode: ChanServ set +o swsch 10:26:20 --- quit: nighty- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10:38:12 --- quit: Shain (Remote closed the connection) 10:39:16 --- quit: Quartus (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10:50:16 --- join: Shain (i=steve@c-67-161-56-76.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #retro 10:51:22 --- join: Quartus (n=trailer@CPE0001023f6e4f-CM013349902843.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #retro 11:16:33 --- quit: timlarson_ (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 11:27:41 --- join: Snoopy42 (i=snoopy_1@dslb-084-058-115-238.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #retro 11:37:04 Latest RetroForth ANS layer: http://retroforth.net/paste/?id=153 11:38:36 Optional case-insensitivity, and a few other enhancements. 11:39:36 lots of neat looking stuff there :) 11:40:12 :) It's working quite well. It accepts many whole ANS programs completely unmodified now. 11:40:59 cool! 11:41:25 It is. Got a 486 assembler up yesterday, will work on a disassembler soon. 11:42:23 awesome :) 11:44:17 It gets in the way of very little of RetroForth itself, by design, so you can still work with crc's extra stuff. 11:50:05 section:/;section is interesting 11:50:36 I went a little bit crazy working with loc:/;loc. section:/;section is similar but avoids the need to toss all the xts over the ;loc wall. 11:50:45 yeah 11:51:16 A fancy version would add 'internal' and allow switching back and forth between internal/external within a section. 11:51:28 nifty 11:52:41 The really super-deluxe model of that is something I already use, module/public:/private:/end-module, based on wordlists. Same idea, but each module is named and has its own private namespace that can be accessed elsewhere. 12:12:47 --- quit: Cheery ("Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/") 12:32:43 --- join: swsch_ (n=stefan@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/swsch) joined #retro 12:32:44 --- mode: ChanServ set +o swsch_ 12:44:17 --- join: timlarson_ (n=timlarso@65.116.199.19) joined #retro 12:49:00 --- quit: swsch (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12:59:03 --- join: nighty (n=nighty@tin51-1-82-226-147-104.fbx.proxad.net) joined #retro 13:06:07 --- join: neceve (n=claudiu@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #retro 13:30:53 --- join: rabbitwhite (n=roger@136.160.196.114) joined #retro 13:32:00 --- quit: timlarson_ ("Leaving") 14:41:36 --- join: Quartus__ (n=Quartus_@209.167.5.1) joined #retro 15:08:50 --- part: crc left #retro 15:10:10 --- join: crc (n=crc@pool-70-110-129-33.phil.east.verizon.net) joined #retro 15:10:53 --- mode: ChanServ set +o crc 15:16:13 --- quit: Ray_work ("User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby") 15:16:31 --- quit: rabbitwhite () 15:26:21 --- quit: virl (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15:33:02 --- join: virl (n=virl@chello062178085149.1.12.vie.surfer.at) joined #retro 15:38:59 --- quit: neceve (Remote closed the connection) 15:39:11 --- quit: Quartus__ ("used jmIrc") 16:22:10 --- quit: swsch_ ("Leaving") 16:46:45 Additional low-hanging fruit, and a correct list of providing/missing words: http://retroforth.net/paste/?id=155 17:05:04 --- quit: nighty (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 17:16:57 --- quit: docl (Remote closed the connection) 21:17:10 --- join: docl (n=docl@74-36-211-202.dr01.hmdl.id.frontiernet.net) joined #retro 22:09:06 Stable link for the RetroForth ANS layer: http://quartus.net/retro/retro-ans.fs 22:09:09 I'll maintain updates there. 22:12:56 It now supports a disassembler. 23:49:31 crc, fyi I have a few optimized words: dup < > tuck. The ANS Forth fib now runs as fast under retro as it does under gforth-fast, and faster than the retro-ized version. 23:59:59 --- log: ended retro/06.08.23