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06:22:52 <erider> good morning all
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14:48:06 <crc> good evening
14:54:41 <docl> hi crc
14:55:03 <crc> hi docl
14:56:21 <crc> I have more work to do for the tail-recursion problem :(
14:57:27 <docl> what's up?
14:58:41 <crc> Quartus discovered a bug in the tail recursion under certain circumstances
14:59:11 <crc> I uploaded 9.2.7, which disabled the tail call elimination, but now am seeking a decent solution to this problem
15:00:52 <docl> darn
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15:03:41 <crc> I hope to have a fix in place tonight
15:04:39 <crc> docl: it mainly seems to affect words like 0; if nothing follows them in a word; I may add a 'notail' word that disables tail call recursion for words calling these
15:05:40 <docl> that might work
15:06:46 * docl has been conversing with timlarson about the possibility of large transparent structures
15:07:47 <crc> ?
15:08:06 <docl> physical structures :)
15:08:53 <docl> so you could have an outdoor-like environment that's enclosed from the weather
15:09:20 <crc> cool
15:10:15 <docl> I'm thinking for privacy, you could use the monolithic ecoshell idea, which lets you build a small house-sized concrete shell (no insulation) for about $1000
15:11:31 <docl> just build a bunch of them on the inside of a super-large greenhouse
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16:10:24 * crc now understands why reva has a whole set of notail classes
16:10:30 <crc> this is not an easy thing to fix :(
16:12:03 <docl> darn
16:13:40 <crc> the problem is that any word using rdrop can lead to a premature return if used at the end of a definition
16:14:25 <crc> I might just add a .notail class, and have rdrop call notail to change the class transparently
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17:44:00 * crc is very confused by this
18:05:34 * crc will leave it alone for now
18:38:29 <crc> I should have a 9.2.8 out tonight, or maybe tomorrow morning
19:12:41 * Raystm2 pokes in.
19:12:52 <Raystm2> i'm late for all the action today.
19:26:59 <crc> 9.2.8 is out
19:27:09 <crc> it adds the ans-compat module to extensions/
19:29:58 <Raystm2> very cool.
19:30:18 <Raystm2> Great going, you and Quartus. Nice way to stretch a bit.
19:31:09 <Raystm2> how is rdrop doing, did you put in a reclassing thingy?
19:32:19 <crc> I left it as it was
19:32:29 <crc> it works, but is not quite as efficient as before
19:32:36 * crc will continue to work on it
19:32:42 <Raystm2> alright.
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19:33:23 <Raystm2> I'm going to be working tomorrow, Installing 48 4 level bays of pallet rack in our remote warehouse.
19:33:50 <Raystm2> I'll have _some_ time sunday, but mostly will be getting ready for the trip.
19:33:57 <crc> ok
19:34:15 <Raystm2> I may have to just put the computer a way till I get back :(
19:34:23 <Raystm2> away even
20:38:09 * crc wanders off to bed; will return tomorro
20:38:13 <crc> *tomorrow
20:38:26 <Raystm2> right night :)
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