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04:16:17 <crc> Raystm2: 
04:16:23 <crc> Raystm2: \ is not a vector
04:16:33 <crc> try:  ~| alias \
04:16:49 <crc> to create a new entry for \ that points to the definiton of |
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07:15:45 <erider> good morning everyone
07:18:19 <Ray_work> good morning erider :)
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07:25:36 <erider> good morning Ray_work
07:25:44 <erider> how are you doing today 
07:51:29 <Ray_work> busy already.
07:51:33 <Ray_work> selling casters
07:51:41 <Ray_work> how about you?
07:54:21 <erider> I doing fine just talking to timlarson
07:55:25 <erider> its earlier so I will wait at less another half and hour to start my questioning lol 
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07:59:53 <Ray_work> okay :)
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10:59:44 <Cheery> urgh.
10:59:49 <Cheery> I ate too much. I think.
11:00:26 <Cheery> Hmm.
11:00:28 <Cheery> I think.
11:01:27 <Cheery> That'd been an usual sized amount. if I were eaten normally last month.
11:02:02 <Cheery> some meals left away, immediately my stomach is smaller. Hm. I gues that's the answer to my overweight problem.
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11:58:57 <erider> hello all 
11:59:18 <erider> good day to learn some more forth :)
12:02:29 <docl> yep :)
12:08:17 <Cheery> crc: docl: anyone? Have you seen anyone doing just a normal C-style memory manager for retroforth?
12:09:15 <Cheery> I mean, one kind which can alloc and free
12:09:28 * docl has thought of doing this
12:10:02 <docl> trouble is if you reallocate space on the heap, you have to change the locations of words
12:10:17 <docl> which means you have to change their xt value in the dictionary
12:10:27 <Cheery> hm.
12:10:41 <docl> it's possible though
12:10:48 <Cheery> I gues I'm going without memory manager to the first version. ;)
12:11:14 <docl> also you'd need to change any pointers that are affected, and there'll be a lot of them
12:11:55 <docl> one thing that might be handy is pseudo-heaps, which can be alloc'd without affecting the main heap where words are created
12:11:59 <Cheery> yeh. but wouldn't just allocating and freeing would go?
12:12:30 <docl> you can deallocate recent allot'ments
12:12:37 <docl> just allot a negative number
12:12:54 <docl> variable foo -4 allot
12:13:00 <docl> is the same as create foo
12:13:27 <Cheery> urgh.
12:13:32 <Cheery> I didn't know that. :D
12:13:55 <Cheery> docl, I can easily do one thing what timlarson has been asking for a while. :)
12:14:03 <docl> cool :)
12:14:35 <Cheery> temporate compilation and immediate execution of assembly instructions.
12:17:54 <Cheery> done ;)
12:19:37 <Cheery> http://retroforth.net/paste/?id=114
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12:20:40 <Cheery> oops, something's wrong... hmm.
12:20:42 <Cheery> I know.
12:20:56 <Cheery> forgot c3 1,
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12:22:41 <Cheery> http://retroforth.net/paste/?id=115
12:25:48 <Cheery> uuurgh
12:25:50 <Cheery> yet third fix.
12:26:31 <Cheery> http://retroforth.net/paste/?id=116
12:28:38 <Cheery> and there is one limitation, the memory allocations of that code is wiped out.
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14:46:08 <crc> good evening
14:46:17 <timlarson> hi
14:48:37 <crc> Cheery: if you use the generic port, you can import malloc/free and such
14:49:06 * crc did some words using syscalls once... I'll see if I can locate them this weekend
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16:19:13 <tiff> crc:
16:19:16 <tiff> oops
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16:19:35 <Raystm2> crc: 
16:19:48 <Raystm2> the thing about ' | is \      
16:20:04 <Raystm2> that's what you have in your ANS file at the top.
16:20:22 <Raystm2> Quartus and i were looking at ANS file after you went to bed. 
16:20:38 <Raystm2> Quartus is making a test.fs file for your ANS.
16:38:16 <Raystm2> http://retroforth.net/paste/?id=117  this is a paste of Quartus's ANS tester. Needs to be retro-ized says he, but it looks great.
17:34:10 <erider> Raystm2: so the loc: is in the ans standard?
17:36:09 <crc> no
17:36:23 <erider> hi crc 
17:36:30 <erider> how are you doing today :)
17:36:33 <crc> loc: is specific to the retro/reva family of forths
17:36:35 <crc> very tired
17:37:00 <erider> so hear that you are tired are you going to bed?
17:38:19 <erider> s/so/sorry
17:38:27 <crc> I will be going to bed soon, but not just yet
17:39:03 <Raystm2> Hey crc: feeling okay?
17:39:12 <Raystm2> are you over what you had?
17:39:16 <erider> hi Raystm2
17:39:40 <crc> Raystm2: mostly
17:40:26 <erider> I put my memobot on #keow but cheery wanted a google feature so I'm writing some code in lisp to try to make a google interface api 
17:41:46 <erider> but I may have to do it in lua lol I don't know yet I just downloaded the toolkit from google 
17:47:04 <Raystm2> hi erider.
17:47:29 <erider> Raystm2: how are you feeling today
17:47:31 <Raystm2> that sounds cool.
17:47:49 * Raystm2 is tired, was late for work, stayed up WAY too late last night.
17:48:31 <erider> wow everyone is a little under the weather
17:49:12 <Raystm2> I hate being late for work. I usually get there at least 1/2 hour early if not an hour, and I usually stay 15 or so minutes late, to stay ahead of everyting.
17:50:11 <Raystm2> IRC practically saved my life. It got me going again, but now it's starting to have the opposite effect. :)
17:51:30 <erider> why do you say that?
17:52:35 <Raystm2> I suppose that if I had enough resources, I'd code and irc everyday all day long :)
17:53:02 <erider> :)
17:53:23 <erider> that sounds like fun 
17:54:09 * Raystm2 can see a day when he R.V.s around the world, coding and chatting along the way.
17:55:20 <Raystm2> oh and playing guitar in every honey-tonk.
17:55:26 <Raystm2> sorry 
17:55:31 <Raystm2> honky-tonk.
17:55:36 <erider> that sounds like a good day :)
18:09:58 <Raystm2> ya. that's a good day. 
18:10:06 <Raystm2> What's your good day like?
18:10:46 <crc> 9.2.7 is out
18:10:52 <Raystm2> hehe
18:11:11 <Raystm2> any changes or where should I be looking for the change log, please?
18:14:54 <crc> just a fix to tail call elimination
18:14:59 <crc> improves stability
18:15:09 <Raystm2> excellent.
18:15:22 <crc> I may rename f as well soon, so wait a few minutes before you update
18:18:53 <Raystm2> :)
18:19:00 <Raystm2> don't blame you there. 
18:19:04 <Raystm2> it's a good change.
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18:30:21 <erider> hi virl
18:33:37 <crc> Raystm2: it's ok to update; I will try to come up with a better name for 'f' in the future
18:33:54 <Raystm2> what's u< ?
18:34:01 <crc> unsigned <
18:34:01 <Raystm2> unsigned less than?
18:34:04 <crc> yes
18:34:06 <Raystm2> okay.
18:34:22 <Raystm2> is that something quartus wanted?
18:34:27 <Raystm2> or you wanted?
18:36:55 <crc> quartus
18:37:04 <crc> and I had been meaning to implement it
18:37:13 <Raystm2> I see.
18:37:27 <crc> part of the ANS library
18:37:58 * Raystm2 nods* eats a chip. :)
18:38:19 <Raystm2> a corn chip that is .
18:42:56 <Raystm2> Hey, crc, thanks for adding daily snapshot download link.
18:43:12 <crc> np
18:43:22 * crc has many things planned :)
18:43:24 <Raystm2> This is good for them that don't darcs?
18:43:27 <Raystm2>  :)
18:43:38 <crc> yes
18:44:58 <Raystm2> and the tarball is created nightly from the repo then?
18:45:15 <Raystm2> of course.
18:45:38 <crc> yes
18:45:59 <crc> changelogs will come by saturday if all goes well
18:47:34 <virl> what is coming crc?
18:48:28 <crc> changelogs for the projects listed at http://retroforth.org/projects
18:52:18 <Raystm2> excellent. Are the changelogs part of the darcs, or seperate from darcs function, I mean if we use the darcs longer descriptions, is this what those are for?
18:55:18 <crc> they are part of darcs 
18:55:31 <crc> derived from the patch names and long descriptions (if availible)
18:56:45 <crc> see http://retroforth.org/projects/RxChess/changes.txt
18:58:19 <crc> or http://retroforth.net/changes.php for a prettier one
18:58:23 <Raystm2> That's great
18:58:26 <Raystm2> oh okay :)
18:59:40 <Raystm2> Oh I ment to tell you. have you seen the paste bin. an error seems to be printing just above adding your name.
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19:01:16 <Raystm2> last link -- doesn't say what code this is changelog for.
19:02:32 <crc> fixed
19:02:44 <crc> Raystm2: it is the changelog for RetroForth 9.2.x
19:03:42 * crc has to get some sleep now; I will be here longer tomorrow and saturday
19:03:46 <crc> goodnight
19:03:49 <Raystm2> oh you added the header, great idea
19:03:52 <Raystm2> goodnight :)
19:04:01 <erider> goodnight
20:30:28 <erider> everyone asleep
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