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02:01:47 <virl> FEN chess notation?
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11:12:10 <docl> hiya futhin 
11:12:43 <futhin> hi doc
11:13:05 <docl> how goes?
11:13:19 <futhin> alright
11:13:50 * docl is learning the ropes with screen
11:15:05 <futhin> screen is kinda neat for colaboration, you can split it, and have two ppl attach to the session
11:15:14 <futhin> so one person gets the top and the other gets the bottom
11:15:32 <docl> yeah, it's awesome. dtach is similar
11:15:50 <docl> you can share a dtach between two terminals as well
11:16:39 <docl> I'm trying to set up my screenrc so that it puts each new window in a dtach session for maximum flexibility
11:16:48 <futhin> i think screen should have more features, be more developed
11:17:00 <docl> definately
11:17:11 <futhin> can't remember some of the things i wanted, but screen really does need more development heh
11:17:23 <docl> it does have a lot of them, but definately needs more :)
11:18:45 <docl> bind c screen dtach -c dtach/sessions/$$ bash # doesn't work because environment variables aren't supported
11:21:05 <docl> ahh, putting it in a shell script worked
11:24:17 <docl> it apparently doesn't recognize ~ either. wierd.
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15:41:46 <crc> good evenint
15:42:38 <docl> welcome, fearless leader!
15:43:12 * crc runs away in terror at the background noise
15:46:48 <virl> background noise?
15:49:20 <crc> my air conditioner :)
15:50:57 <docl> get ear plugs if you need them :)
15:51:32 <crc> http://retroforth.net/discuss/comments.php?DiscussionID=4
15:51:43 <crc> this is the ANS CORE compat layer for 9.2
15:51:55 <crc> implements most of the CORE spec
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15:52:05 <docl> awesome!
16:13:02 <crc> I will eventually add at least part of CORE-EXT as well
16:13:26 <crc> how much detail does the help system need?
16:18:05 <docl> a short description of each command is sufficient
16:18:44 <docl> new users will typically read a tutorial in addition, so you don't need a whole man page for each word.
16:19:34 <docl> the chief purpose, I think, is to jog their memory and help them get a feel for things
16:22:45 <crc> ok
16:22:49 * crc begins work on this
16:27:24 <crc> a simple prototype is in the repo now
16:27:37 <crc> has help on 'forth' and '.forth'
16:29:14 <crc> if this approach is satisfactory, I'll move docstring: (or maybe call it doc: ?) to modules/help
16:32:48 <virl> what's docstring exactly?
16:33:07 <crc> a lispy term for a pointer to documentation about a function
16:33:31 <crc> docstring:  is my word to create an anonymous word that holds documentation for a named word
16:33:45 <crc> so I can say:
16:33:48 <crc> : foo .... ;
16:34:34 <crc> docstring: foo ." a-b   .forth" cr ." foo changes a to b" ;
16:34:37 <crc> and then:
16:34:38 <crc> help foo
16:34:43 <crc> will run the docstring word
16:35:54 <crc> you have to manually load help.data for this all to work
16:37:17 <crc> brb; resetting opera
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16:50:02 <crc> bbl; shopping for food 
18:56:57 <crc> back
18:57:45 <crc> has anyone looked over the help system prototype?
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19:39:47 * crc attempts a memory installation; will be back tomorrow
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19:59:10 <crc> 1.5gb of ram now, and goodnight :_
19:59:12 <crc> :)
20:11:38 <futhin> aren't there better things to spend your money on? :P
20:32:50 <futhin> like buying yourself a better job! ;P
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