00:00:00 --- log: started retro/06.06.29 02:42:26 --- join: Cheery (i=Henri@a81-197-32-96.elisa-laajakaista.fi) joined #retro 02:45:38 --- join: nighty (i=nighty@sushi.rural-networks.com) joined #retro 02:50:39 --- quit: Cheery (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05:29:39 --- nick: Raystm2 -> nanstm 07:02:49 --- join: Ray_work (n=Raystm2@199.227.227.26) joined #retro 07:14:18 --- join: Ray-work (n=Raystm2@199.227.227.26) joined #retro 07:32:36 --- quit: Ray_work (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08:32:27 I like the new [[ ... ]] syntax. 08:32:32 [[ 10 for here r 1- cells + ! next ]] 08:32:32 [[ 10 for here 10 r - cells + @ dup . next ]] 08:32:32 swap 08:32:32 : .s [ compile compile ] cr ; 08:45:11 --- join: nighty_ (i=nighty@sushi.rural-networks.com) joined #retro 08:54:52 --- join: rabbitwhite (n=roger@136.160.196.114) joined #retro 08:59:04 --- quit: nighty (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09:01:38 --- quit: rabbitwhite () 09:49:27 haha, now I have vector text 09:49:38 ok, soon, it should be finished. 12:46:08 I can't get generic to work under linux for some reason 12:49:22 got it 12:51:23 Error: Attempt to import unknown function: g_signal_connect_data 12:58:30 ok I got the example working 12:58:49 at the font @ spot, it returns -402127132 12:58:59 is that a valid font number? 14:02:39 --- quit: docl ("Leaving") 14:23:48 good evening 14:34:39 wow 14:34:49 more like afternoon ;P 14:35:05 unless its 6:30 for you? 14:35:07 well, it's after 5pm in my part of the world :) 14:35:12 about 5.30pm 14:35:14 yeah 14:35:22 evening for me starts when I get home from work 14:35:29 heh 14:51:33 ok, switching discussion back to retros home 14:54:47 puh, that zt causes that was completly unbelievable for me 15:01:43 hmm, that situation with zt showed me again, that automatic memory allocation is in most situations not good. 15:03:45 I never ran into that problem personally 15:05:59 well perhaps it gets solved when I do the variable: stuff at the next line, haha, that's funny. 15:06:19 that would also work 15:06:49 * crc will see if he can come up with some sort of a fix for this, though it may not be ready in time for 9.2 15:08:23 we have an essential retro programming rule, don't do one liners with variable 15:08:39 not if you are using 'zt' anyway 15:08:48 most words won't affect this, except for zt 15:10:12 actually, in the core, only zt uses later 15:12:27 --- join: snoopy_1711 (i=snoopy_1@dslb-084-058-147-056.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #retro 15:20:42 --- quit: Snoopy42 (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 15:20:51 --- nick: snoopy_1711 -> Snoopy42 15:22:24 http://tinyurl.com/elaj9 has the start of my notes on zt, later, and variables 15:30:16 bbiab 15:32:43 horray 15:33:06 now I need to get a feeling about the right colors 15:51:05 --- quit: nighty_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16:05:58 --- nick: nanstm -> Raystm2 16:07:31 Hi all. 16:08:04 * Raystm2 watching a college program on tv. related website = http://www.stanford.edu/~merez/research.html 16:56:57 back for a little while 17:01:02 argh, when X would have BIG Fonts. 17:01:49 so it needs a vector lib, when you want fonts for presentations and anti aliased. 17:02:51 and the problem with the colors I need to fix. 17:03:17 so that green == green on screen == ~ green on someone others system 17:04:39 what color depth are you running? 17:06:04 well I'm on 24bit iirc. should there be an at or is the on right there? 17:06:23 that's fine 17:06:33 * crc is also using 24bit color 17:07:32 here the line is red and the yellow background is green :-| 17:10:44 --- join: docl (n=main@70-101-145-1.br1.mcl.id.frontiernet.net) joined #retro 17:10:50 hi docl 17:10:54 hi crc 17:14:03 * docl reads the logs (nice having cbot here :) 17:14:31 http://rafb.net/paste/results/4P6xLY56.html for working code from virl :) 17:14:48 http://retroforth.org/sample.png is a screenshot on my system 17:15:21 * crc is curious to know what color the elements are on your system. On mine, yellow and black. virl's systems hows green and red. 17:15:45 and on mine system the line is red, the background is green and a big vector text appears. 17:16:05 virl: what X system do you use? 17:16:13 e.g., XFree86 or Xorg? 17:16:28 iirc, it was XFree86 17:18:22 I am using XFree86 4.5.0 on NetBSD 3.0 17:18:55 * crc wonders if using 'startx' instead of 'xinit' could make a difference... 17:19:47 and my X version is 4.3.0.1 17:21:10 I'm getting a red ling, light green background, and black text 17:21:19 s/ling/line 17:21:31 yep that is it 17:21:36 * crc will try something, brb 17:21:42 --- quit: crc (Remote closed the connection) 17:22:06 docl, what do you use? 17:22:21 does the Xft text also work on your system? 17:22:35 debian linux. xfree86, I think 17:23:16 I have to add a .6 to the from line at the beginning, apparently debian lacks a symlink there 17:23:25 from /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 17:23:36 other than that, it works great 17:24:04 there is also a Xft thing does it displays? should be big text and which color does it have? 17:25:19 there is big text but my color vision isn't good enough to tell. 17:25:29 greyish, maybe red or green 17:26:52 ok, well it should be black(here it doesn't work too) hmm, stupid Xft thing. 17:27:08 there is probably some hack so that it works. 17:27:11 * docl has color blindness on a few narrow color frequencies 17:27:51 oh, well then do a screenshot and upload it somewhere 17:37:23 color blindness, that's not funny. 17:37:39 not serious color blindness 17:37:52 just a few shades are hard to tell apart 17:38:27 'darling, which dress looks fine' well then you are fucked as a color blind 17:39:13 well I off now, need to go to bed.. 17:39:16 only if they're purple :P 17:39:18 see ya 17:39:50 --- quit: virl (Remote closed the connection) 17:47:33 --- join: crc (n=crc@pdpc/supporter/active/crc) joined #retro 17:47:33 --- mode: ChanServ set +o crc 17:47:44 no luck yet :( 18:02:04 * crc is going to bed; I will be here longer tomorrow and most of saturday though 18:02:06 goodnight 18:06:22 goodnight 20:46:47 --- join: Ray_work (n=Raystm2@199.227.227.26) joined #retro 20:46:47 --- quit: ChanServ (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20:46:47 --- quit: Raystm2 (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20:46:47 --- quit: thin (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20:46:47 --- quit: Snoopy42 (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20:46:47 --- quit: [Shain] (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20:46:48 --- quit: arke (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20:46:48 --- quit: crc_ (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20:46:50 --- join: ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) joined #retro 20:46:50 --- join: Snoopy42 (i=snoopy_1@dslb-084-058-147-056.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #retro 20:46:50 --- join: thin (i=thin@69.46.24.28) joined #retro 20:46:50 --- join: [Shain] (i=steve@c-67-161-56-76.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #retro 20:46:50 --- join: crc_ (i=crc@69.46.24.28) joined #retro 20:46:50 --- join: Raystm2 (n=Raystm2@adsl-68-95-251-194.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) joined #retro 20:46:50 --- join: arke (n=f2@bespin.org) joined #retro 20:46:50 --- mode: irc.freenode.net set +ooo ChanServ Raystm2 arke 21:02:05 --- quit: Ray-work (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21:11:54 --- join: Ray-work (n=Raystm2@199.227.227.26) joined #retro 21:40:44 --- quit: Ray_work (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21:43:17 --- nick: [Shain] -> Shain 23:52:02 --- join: Cheery (i=Henri@a81-197-21-61.elisa-laajakaista.fi) joined #retro 23:59:59 --- log: ended retro/06.06.29