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04:06:55 <proteusguy> mark4, congrats on the new contract. what will you be doing?
07:56:03 <cbridge_> <impomatic> Does the Forth channel still exist on Freenode as well? For some reason I can no longer connect to Freenode.
08:00:05 <iv4nshm4k0v> Freenode server configuration seem to now have changed to require TLS and a registered account for new connections.  (Which, incidentally, means I won't be able to reconnect here; I'll still be on #coders on irc://irc.efnet.org/ , though.)
08:01:49 <cbridge_> <nihilazo> why would you try and connect to freenode
08:01:58 <cbridge_> <nihilazo> they nuked the network and basically all communities have eft
08:01:58 <cbridge_> <nihilazo> s/eft/left/
08:02:24 <cmtptr> i'm not registered and i'm on freenode
08:03:12 <cmtptr> i do connect with tls, though
08:03:28 <iv4nshm4k0v> cmtptr: Once you disconnect, you won't be able to reconnect without registration.  Unless that change gets reverted sometime later, that is.
08:03:28 <iv4nshm4k0v> nihilazo: Many left, some remained, a few new got formed.
08:04:54 <cmtptr> iv4nshm4k0v, this must be a recent change?  looks like my client reconnected about a week ago just fine
08:05:07 <cmtptr> also, how do you register if you can't connect?
08:07:27 <cbridge_> <impomatic> I just wanted to check in on a few channels to see if they still exist.
08:08:14 <iv4nshm4k0v> cmtptr: "You must use TLS/SSL and authenticate via SASL to connect to freenode please visit https://irc.com/login/sso in order to create an account. SASL Configuration: https://freenode.net/kb/answer/sasl - Webchat: https://webchat.freenode.net/ ."
08:09:11 <cmtptr> wtf
08:10:38 <iv4nshm4k0v> impomatic: My impression is that the channels here slowly get depopulated: unregistered clients disconnect for all the usual reasons, and never able to reconnect due to this new requirement.  But note that (AIUI) you can still use the webchat to check around.
08:11:43 <cmtptr> i see the same message when i try to use their web client
08:12:05 <cbridge_> <impomatic> Thanks, I guess the channels I was interested in will probably be dead. I tried the web client and couldn't connect.
08:12:26 <cmtptr> impomatic, do you want me to check for you?
08:13:11 <cmtptr> #furryparty looks to be dead
08:16:26 <cbridge_> <impomatic> cmtptr: thanks, I've found most of the programming channels I'm interested in on here now. I just wanted to check if #corewars is dead before I update the links on my website :-)
08:21:04 <cmtptr> impomatic, there are two people in #corewars with the nicks myndzi and X-Scale 
08:21:28 <cmtptr> also, cool, i played around with corewar once but never actually wrote anything for it.  looked interesting to me
08:22:03 <cbridge_> <impomatic> Thanks cmtptr, looks like most people left.
08:24:06 <cbridge_> <impomatic> Core War can be tough to get into, people have been playing for years so the level is quite high.
08:24:41 <cbridge_> <impomatic> I've always wanted a programming game in Forth. There are a couple of program-the-robot game which use a Forth variant, but nothing like Core War.
08:28:17 <iv4nshm4k0v> I've been thinking of getting into Corewar, but I guess I'd prefer something with more complex 'environment' than core proper.
08:30:35 <iv4nshm4k0v> Perhaps even something as "simple" (in rules, though not in actual algorithms) as a "tetris-playing bot."
08:34:30 <cmtptr> i wrote most of the core of a forth for this at the start of the pandemic https://github.com/simon987/Much-Assembly-Required
08:34:54 <cbridge_> <tangentstorm> lol
08:35:07 <cmtptr> but then once i started trying to read code from disk, i found that his disk interface doesn't work, and the project looks to be dead
08:36:36 <cbridge_> <tangentstorm> forth corewar could be kind of cool. you could have competing tribes that all use their own languages / dictionaries... 
08:43:43 <cmtptr> i get the impression that something like corewar (where you're fighting for address space) is probably dominated by tiny quines.  i think a vm like forth would get destroyed
08:47:49 <cbridge_> <tangentstorm> i would think it would work better if the cpu you fought over were a forth vm itself.
08:48:55 <cbridge_> <tangentstorm> if you could make up your own forth words, that might be too powerful. (but then the other 'teams' would have the same power, so...)
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09:25:18 <iv4nshm4k0v> cmtptr: FWIW, that was more or less my impression as well.
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17:53:10 <cbridge_> <dave0> maw
19:00:50 <cbridge_> <lispmacs[work]> I did a gemlog post on Punyforth on ESP-01S. It is short, but does include an asciinema cast:
19:01:01 <cbridge_> <lispmacs[work]> gemini://gem.librehacker.com/gemlog/tech/20210728-0.gmi
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22:36:41 <cbridge_> <moony> siraben> their recent policy change to require registration is just icing on the cake, now all the dead bouncers will start to fail | netsplit.de probably will too unless they gave it an exception.
22:37:24 <cbridge_> <moony> and honestly
22:37:31 <cbridge_> <moony> i'm not sure they know how
22:39:01 <cbridge_> <moony> Well, no more bragging for them
22:39:12 <cbridge_> <moony> if there's no stats on netsplit, they'll be ignored
22:39:26 <cbridge_> <moony> it's the equivalent of deleting all your advertising
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