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01:38:09 <cbridge_> <veltas> siraben: Personally? This new B language
02:54:27 <cbridge_> <veltas> siraben: Yes, the predecessor
04:06:56 <cbridge_> <veltas> Don't know, I think there's at least a couple for modern POSIX systems, there have been a few dotted around for DOS, ATARI etc
04:07:09 <cbridge_> <veltas> Older ones existed for original UNIX on PDP-11, honeywell, etc
04:07:34 <cbridge_> <veltas> The B implementations around probably all simulate B's hardware assumptions in a VM
04:07:51 <cbridge_> <veltas> Whereas I want to change the semantics a bit to generate native code instead
04:08:22 <cbridge_> <veltas> The other approach to getting native code on byte-addressed machines is adding types, which is the approach C took
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05:38:14 <cbridge_> <veltas> There's just one thing about B which has been confusing me, which is how external vectors vs. external simple variables are handled.
05:38:53 <cbridge_> <veltas> There are no types, so no special handling can happen between vectors and variables. But a vector is linked by providing the address of vector, and its value is that address
05:39:13 <cbridge_> <veltas> And a variable provides its address when linking, and its value is indirectly accessed through that address
05:39:49 <cbridge_> <veltas> I think the way they must have done it is having every vector have a variable that just points to that vector, because I've seen it mentioned elsewhere you can overwrite a vector's pointer
05:40:11 <cbridge_> <veltas> i.e. you can do   auto a[10], b[10]; a = b; /* now a points to b, rather than its own storage */
05:40:53 <cbridge_> <veltas> I shouldn't say 'pointer' because that's a C thing, in B they're called addresses
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11:54:11 <mark4> USB_HID [=y]!=y  <-- anyone here know wtf this is saying?
11:54:24 <mark4> its part of a depends on a search in menuconfig
11:54:31 <mark4> Depends on: USB_HID [=y]!=y && EXPERT [=n] && USB [=y] && INPUT [=y]  
11:54:42 <mark4> yea everything thats supposed to be Y is Y, everything thats supposed to be N is N
11:54:55 <mark4> but the item i am searching for still cannot be found anywhere in menuconfig
12:06:48 <mark4> nvm
12:07:17 <mark4> freeking search help is broken. the missing menuconfig items suddenlhy appeared when i set USB_HID = M instead of the Y the help says to set it to
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15:40:15 <cbridge_> <dave0> maw
16:08:18 <cmtptr> isn't the stuff in braces telling you what it currently is
16:08:42 <cmtptr> i know i'm late
16:09:08 <cmtptr> and he's not even here
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19:32:10 <cbridge_> <dave0> re maw
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