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06:47:50 <cmtptr> i think that i might have a brain problem
06:48:12 <cmtptr> three of the last four bugs i wrote at work were inverted logic
06:48:37 <cmtptr> "if" when it should have been an "if not", or ">" when it should have been "<=", etc.
06:59:26 <iv4nshm4k0v> All work and no play makes you forget words how work.
07:34:55 <cmtptr> are you saying that if this keeps up i'm going to go on a murderous rampage with a fire axe against my own family in a spooky hotel during a blizzard?
07:35:26 <cmtptr> i better take some time off, then.  i wonder if my manager will accept that as a good reason
07:37:42 <iv4nshm4k0v> He'd better.
07:37:43 <iv4nshm4k0v> Яedrum
09:54:12 <cbridge_> <tangentstorm> what are some forthlikes besides retro and mako that run on virtual machines with small instruction sets?
09:54:54 <cbridge_> <tangentstorm> or i guess where else can i see someone's take on a core set of words that make up a forthlike?
09:55:08 <cbridge_> <eris[m]1> <tangentstorm "what are some forthlikes besides"> uxn?
09:55:12 <cbridge_> <tangentstorm> (oh i already have f-18 from greenarrays)
09:55:12 <cbridge_> <eris[m]1> colorforth?
09:55:55 <cbridge_> <eris[m]1> uxn is a stack vm
09:56:52 <cbridge_> <tangentstorm> ah googling that lead to https://github.com/jinhanada/arkam as well
10:20:36 <cbridge_> <veltas> tangentstorm: A lot of languages are like that, JVM, Lua, many old BASICs
10:20:51 <cbridge_> <veltas> The B implementation on the PDP-11
10:21:58 <cbridge_> <tangentstorm> yeah. i'm interested mostly in the ones with very small instruction sets
10:22:48 <cbridge_> <tangentstorm> mostly just curious which opcodes the designers picked to be their 'axioms'
10:23:06 <cbridge_> <tangentstorm> i suppose it doesn't really matter :)
10:29:51 <cbridge_> <tangentstorm> i'm toying around with a vm idea that works like the utf-8 encoding scheme, where any asci letter just writes a byte to ram, and any valid utf-8 sequence does the same for multi-byte characters.
10:30:29 <cbridge_> <tangentstorm> which leaves something like 64 bytes available to hold other instructions. 
10:30:47 <cbridge_> <tangentstorm> 64 opcodes i mean.
11:16:19 <cbridge_> <eris[m]1> im assuming an address register then
11:20:32 <cbridge_> <tangentstorm> yeah, there's a read register and a write register like in colorforth 
11:21:26 <cbridge_> <eris[m]1> f18 has two registers that can be both read and written
11:21:34 <cbridge_> <tangentstorm> https://github.com/sabren/b4/blob/master/j/b4.ijs <- j, so i don't know how readable this is :(
11:21:55 <cbridge_> <tangentstorm> i kinda think that if you're going for a forth, it almost doesn't matter what your VM looks like... forth is the vm. 
11:22:10 <cbridge_> <tangentstorm> you just need to pick something to host it.
11:22:32 <cbridge_> <veltas> I also feel this way
11:24:07 <cbridge_> <siraben> veltas: o/ saw you on HN
11:24:29 <cbridge_> <eris[m]1> wow, folks actuslly writing j
11:24:33 <cbridge_> <eris[m]1> didnt know that happened
11:25:13 <cbridge_> <tangentstorm> :D i write k at work, and j for fun. (and occasionally for a youtube channel)
11:27:37 <cbridge_> <eris[m]1> oh wow
11:27:48 <cbridge_> <eris[m]1> how'd you land that job?
11:32:06 <cbridge_> <tangentstorm> my old boss posted to the apl/j/k subreddit.
11:32:35 <cbridge_> <eris[m]1> haha
11:33:24 <cbridge_> <tangentstorm> well, i mean he wasn't my old boss at the time. but i met him on there and it worked out. :)
11:36:33 <cbridge_> <tangentstorm> i don't know if we're hiring at the moment (i'm on paternity leave) but i wrote this about it a few months ago when we were: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/want-work-k-1010data-michal-wallace/
11:37:22 <cbridge_> <tangentstorm> the guy that made mako used to work there too, and found it through the same reddit post :)
12:14:27 <cbridge_> <hendursaga> Hello, this might be a rather niche question, but is anyone aware of a Forth that runs on J2ME/Java ME? https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1889034/what-programming-languages-target-j2me/1891023#1891023
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12:27:46 <cbridge_> <tangentstorm> hendursaga: google turns this up: https://pdroms.de/sunmicrosystems-j2me/mid4th-v1-44-j2me-application
12:32:57 <cbridge_> <hendursaga> huh, missed that one
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14:58:06 <cbridge_> <crc> retro10 had an implementation that ran on j2me.
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23:24:16 <cbridge_> <dave0> maw
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