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01:17:55 <veltas> Why are you bringing race into this Zarutian_HTC
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04:05:42 <cbridge_> <lispmacs> has anybody here been able to compile durexforth? <https://github.com/jkotlinski/durexforth>?
04:06:47 <cbridge_> <lispmacs> I've tried using ACME assembler downloaded and compiled from <https://github.com/meonwax/acme.git> but get assembly errors
04:07:36 <proteusguy> Not familiar with that one. C64 - cool.
04:09:07 <cbridge_> <lispmacs> I was interested in this particular C64 Forth because it has a free software license (MIT)
04:09:39 <proteusguy> even better
04:09:44 <cbridge_> <lispmacs> and is a "modern" forth implementing the 2012 standard
04:10:01 <proteusguy> ok not so sure about that one... ;-)
04:10:42 <cbridge_> <lispmacs> I've used 64FORTH briefly but the license is vague
04:11:05 <cbridge_> <lispmacs> one of those "author says it is okay to redistribute" licenses that doesn't grant any explicit permissions
04:11:59 <proteusguy> lispmacs, well back in the day we didn't think much about licenses. If the source code was out there it was fair game. Otherwise it was copyrighted stuff as binaries.
04:12:16 <proteusguy> ..and still fair game! ;-)
04:12:46 <cbridge_> <lispmacs> 64FORTH didn't supply any source originally, it was a proprietary commercial project
04:13:03 <cbridge_> <lispmacs> there still wouldn't be any source except somebody did a disassemble
04:13:42 <proteusguy> yep that was the most common distributions.
04:14:01 <cbridge_> <siraben> lispmacs: what kind of dependencies does it need?
04:14:48 <cbridge_> <lispmacs> siraben: there is no installation documentation, unfortunately, but from Makefile it seems that only "acme" assembler is needed
04:15:46 <cbridge_> <lispmacs> makefile uses acme to build a C64 disk image and some other stuff
04:16:24 <cbridge_> <lispmacs> the version or origin of acme is not listed, unfortunately, so I just did a Web search for ACME assembler
04:17:17 <cbridge_> <lispmacs> and found 6502 ACME assembler at <https://github.com/meonwax/acme.git>, mirrored from the SourceForge SVN
04:17:19 <proteusguy> lispmacs - the project has updates within the last month. Should post an issue with them.
04:18:01 <cbridge_> <lispmacs> okay, I'll think about that. On principle I don't currently have an account with github
04:18:16 <proteusguy> oh? haha what principle is that?
04:18:22 <cbridge_> <lispmacs> but have pondered getting one to be able to submit bug reports
04:18:57 <cbridge_> <lispmacs> github has an "F" rating with the GNU Ethical Repository Criteria <https://www.gnu.org/software/repo-criteria-evaluation.en.html>
04:19:09 <cbridge_> <siraben> GitHub is not free software
04:19:09 <cbridge_> <lispmacs> and also I wasn't to excited to see it bought out by Microsoft
04:19:33 <cbridge_> <siraben> lispmacs: if you want, send me a paste and I can open the issue in lieu
04:19:46 <proteusguy> yeah so now you get to make Microsoft pay to give you free services.... ;-)
04:20:05 <proteusguy> GNU has a lot of nerve talking about ethics... goodness.
04:20:17 <cbridge_> <lispmacs> siraben: okay, thanks, I see if I can put together a nice paste soon
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04:32:41 <cbridge_> <lispmacs> siraben: here is the paste: https://bpa.st/2ZTQ
04:33:20 <cbridge_> <siraben> lispmacs: nice, Guix user :)
04:35:38 <cbridge_> <siraben> lispmacs: https://github.com/jkotlinski/durexforth/issues/352
04:36:05 <cbridge_> <lispmacs> siraben: thanks!
04:36:32 <cbridge_> <siraben> No problem!
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04:37:50 <cbridge_> <lispmacs> I need to go back to bed now. It is pretty early in my timezone but I had to get the newborn back to sleep first
04:37:56 <cbridge_> <lispmacs> goodnight
04:54:00 <cbridge_> <siraben> lispmacs: you have a response, to try the latest ACME sources from sourceforge
05:01:36 <cbridge_> <dave0> i did not know about this: https://forth-standard.org/standard/words    i have been using the pdf which is tricky to navigate!
05:11:05 <cbridge_> <siraben> dave0: I didn't know about the PDF!
05:11:14 <cbridge_> <dave0> siraben: lol
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05:43:59 <cbridge_> <amirouche> great link, tx dave0 
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08:42:48 <KipIngram> Good morning, folks.
08:43:10 <cbridge_> <Zarutian_HTC> afternoon
08:58:22 <cbridge_> <crc> Good morning KipIngram
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09:06:40 <cbridge_> <remexre> morning
09:09:31 <cbridge_> <KipIngram> lispmacs: I remember the days, my friend.  I raised five daughters.
09:10:20 <mark4> KipIngram, how did you survive being that out numbered lol
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09:13:58 <cbridge_> <KipIngram> :-)
09:14:02 <cbridge_> <KipIngram> No kidding.
09:14:21 <cbridge_> <KipIngram> It helps that little girls really love their Daddy.
09:14:47 <cbridge_> <KipIngram> Plus they were fairly spread out, so it was more an endurance event than a sprint.
09:24:18 <mark4> lol
09:24:40 <mark4> they all married now?
09:25:01 <mark4> my youngest sister is having her first baby ether today or tomorrow im not sure lol
09:37:05 <proteusguy> Wow my Uncle John who lived in Texas had five daughters... finally got grandsons and spoiled them rotten. Before then we'd visit down in McAllen TX and he'd take us to S. Padre Island for fishing. 
09:45:52 <KipIngram> I've just gotten my first grandson.  Spoiling plans are already being laid.  :-)
09:46:20 <KipIngram> He's about a month old now, but he was 11 weeks premature, so he's also still like negative two months ish.
09:46:26 <KipIngram> Doing great, though.
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10:38:02 <mark4> lol
10:38:12 <mark4> baby pot pies are made to be spoiled :)
10:38:24 <mark4> wreak havok on your grand kids parents :P
10:38:57 <mark4> i wants kidz
10:39:43 <crab> make some then
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10:48:02 <mark4> takes 2 to tango :)
10:52:32 <cmtptr> gross
10:56:30 <cbridge_> <KipIngram> Not gross - one of the best things in life.
10:56:43 <cbridge_> <KipIngram> It's just that no one else is interested in your details on that front.
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10:58:51 <cbridge_> <KipIngram> Well, at least I'm not.
10:59:38 <cbridge_> <KipIngram> mark4: You're close to my age, aren't you?  Men in our age range are in high demand.
10:59:48 <mark4> :)
10:59:51 <cbridge_> <KipIngram> I may be wrong about that though - may be thinking of another of you.
11:00:39 <cbridge_> <KipIngram> But the tables totally turn on that game between when we're in our 20's and our 40's.
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20:33:46 <cbridge_> <lispmacs> siraben: could you please attached this message onto our durexforth bug report?: https://bpa.st/RI2A
20:34:43 <cbridge_> <lispmacs> the bug report could be closed also, thanks!
20:35:36 <cbridge_> <siraben> lispmacs: :) nice
20:35:55 <cbridge_> <siraben> i was trying to get it to build yesterday and using the latest revision of ACME also worked with nix
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22:09:53 <cbridge_> <dave0> maw
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22:11:38 <crab> I have an old sampling keyboard, Ensoniq EPS16+, and I wanted to see if it would be possible for me to write a forth for it(it boots from floppy disk) but I can't find any information whatsoever on what the actual hardware in the thing is and I'm afraid to take it apart
22:11:58 <crab> I wonder if there is any good place I should be searching for that information
22:24:22 <cbridge_> <lispmacs> crab: maybe this forum?: http://www.synthzone.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/forums/9/1/Ensoniq_Discussion
22:25:10 <cbridge_> <lispmacs> or https://www.yamahamusicians.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=18
22:25:46 <cbridge_> <lispmacs> also, if there is a patent number listed on it, you can look up the patent information
22:35:49 <crab> looks like it has three separate processors
22:36:00 <crab> microprocessors
22:45:35 <crab> at least the main board has a 68000 processor
22:45:54 <crab> the 16 bit one
22:54:14 <crab> Well I probably will go for the GBA before this
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