00:00:00 --- log: started forth/21.05.24 00:00:00 --- quit: Vedran (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 00:09:34 nihilazo, Lord_Nightmare why so excited to leave freenode #forth? All it does is split the forth community. If there's an issue on this #forth channel that bothers you then speak up. But let the irc hosting providers deal with their stuff however they like so long as it doesn't hurt #forth. Every one in this channel can act like an adult regardless of what any written policies say. crc is making a bridge between the systems soon enough. 01:03:24 --- join: Vedran joined #forth 02:43:20 --- part: jn__ left #forth 02:57:21 --- quit: Bogen85 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 03:43:35 That's the smartest thing I've seen in here the last couple of days. This is a great channel - I've truly enjoyed having other Forth appreciators to hang out with. The last couple of days have been bizarre and weird, but they are NOT characteristic of THIS CHANNEL and THESE PEOPLE. The thing is #forth just happens to be on Freenode - WE are #forth; it's what we make it. And as far as I'm concerned we've 03:43:38 made it something good and I see no reason to let some other people's squabbles spoil that. 03:44:35 Try to remember that this whole business is being "spun" just like every damn political issue that rolls gets spun. You've got people on this side bending the rhetoric one way and people on the other side bending it the other way - they're all just trying to manipulate us to behave the way they want us to behave. 03:44:52 I'm over it - I want to talk about forth, like we always do. 03:45:08 I for one don't want to lose that over a pile of horse poo. 03:47:09 If bad things start to happen here, then we can leave then. But *we* haven't had problems. There's no reason we need to start having them. 03:50:38 I just think everyone has gotten way to wound up over something that has actually had no effect on us whatsoever, as far as I can see. 03:50:49 "too" wound up 04:14:30 --- quit: APic (Quit: Trying to switch to Libera.Chat) 04:36:40 --- quit: Zarutian_HTC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04:36:56 --- join: Zarutian_HTC joined #forth 04:45:09 --- join: Bogen85 joined #forth 05:07:18 --- join: cbridge joined #forth 05:08:55 1621858111 testing initial version of the bridge (libera side)... 05:09:06 testing initial version of the bridge (freenode side)... 05:09:49 1621858166 -!- impomatic(~impomatic@host86-162-94-150.range86-162.btcentralplus.com) has joined ##forth 05:10:19 1621858196 -!- impomatic(~impomatic@host86-162-94-150.range86-162.btcentralplus.com) has joined ##forth 05:12:57 That looks promising. 05:13:14 1621858372 indeed 05:13:21 1621858379 :-) 05:13:46 1621858404 It's a shame it clutters it up with extra baggage, but at least it's working. Nicely done. 05:14:06 1621858423 output will be cleaned up later :) 05:14:34 1621858450 Ok. It's also showing up in my highmon buffer, because my nick appears in it. 05:14:37 1621858454 That will get annoying. 05:15:23 1621858501 Will it be possible for side A to know that stuff I type on side B is FROM me and not TO me? 05:16:38 1621858576 You see what I'm saying, right? When I type something here, it gets pumped onto freenode #forth with my nick contained in the content. My client then sees that as someone else mentioning my nick, and flags it into my highmon buffer. 05:16:54 1621858591 I can rework the message format to make that clearer 05:17:11 1621858608 Highmon is automated - there may be no way to avoid it. 05:17:14 1621858611 not sure how to prevent a client from seeing it as a mention though 05:17:22 1621858619 If so I'll just have to deal with. 05:17:31 1621858628 Right - there's probably no good way to do that. 05:18:37 1621858695 The client itself could be made to fix that - after all, it knows I just typed it into another buffer. 05:18:51 1621858708 Maybe I can fix it in the source. 05:18:59 why be connected to both though if there's a bridge? 05:19:14 1621858731 Well, good point. 05:19:25 1621858743 Once the output is cleaned up that's probably the answer - no need to be in both. 05:19:31 1621858748 That will fix it. 05:19:42 1621858759 Thanks - that should have been obvious to me. :-) 05:19:52 1621858768 It's early - only half a cup of coffee so far. 05:19:52 1621858770 heh, same 05:25:07 hehe, I only know bc one of the calculator channels im in has been bridged to discord for a while 05:25:20 KipIngram, thought any more about making a calculator? 05:28:17 --- quit: MrMobius (Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Organize your IRC) 05:29:54 No, not explicitly, though every time it crosses my mind I think what a great project it would be. It would be total coolness to 3d print the case, etc. It's still the key tech that I have the poorest ideas about. 05:30:08 It's always fun to talk about. 05:30:48 And keys are important - one of the nicest things about my old HP was how pleasant the key action was. 05:31:34 Have any of the big vendors ever included a touch screen in their calculator? 05:31:46 Seems like that would be good for zooming, rotating, and so on. 05:32:39 casio has a touchscreen graphing calculator iirc 05:34:39 --- quit: cbridge (Remote host closed the connection) 05:34:46 --- quit: Zarutian_HTC (Remote host closed the connection) 05:35:17 --- join: MrMobius joined #forth 05:38:50 --- quit: MrMobius (Client Quit) 05:39:09 crc: Let us know when the bridge is full time up; I'll drop off of libera ##forth then. 05:39:31 --- join: MrMobius joined #forth 05:39:34 I'm over all this stuff - I decided on the Burt Cooper approach to the whole thing. 05:39:45 That's a Mad Men reference, for the unintiated. 05:40:43 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqkHPsY8p84 06:02:21 --- join: cbridge-libera joined #forth 07:14:01 --- join: Zarutian_HTC joined #forth 07:17:56 -!- mtsd(~mtsd@94-137-100-130.customers.ownit.se) has joined ##forth 07:19:51 --- quit: mstevens () 07:21:06 --- quit: wineroots (Remote host closed the connection) 07:38:33 --- join: wineroots joined #forth 07:43:01 --- nick: MrMobius -> MrMobius2 07:43:49 --- nick: MrMobius2 -> MrMobius 07:55:18 -!- impomatic(~impomatic@host86-162-94-150.range86-162.btcentralplus.com) has joined ##forth 07:59:48 -!- impomatic(~impomatic@host86-162-94-150.range86-162.btcentralplus.com) has joined ##forth 08:11:14 --- join: Zarutian_HTC1 joined #forth 08:11:14 --- quit: Zarutian_HTC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08:12:45 KipIngram, Mad Men is the best! 08:13:34 Cool - the bridge works. Nice going crc ! 08:13:43 It was quite good, wasn't it? 08:14:16 -!- KipIngram(~kipingram@62.151.183.147) has left ##forth 08:14:33 ACTION is pleased to see that it seems more stable now 08:14:50 hmm; I'll need to refine the handling of /me 08:15:17 -!- impomatic(~impomatic@host86-162-94-150.range86-162.btcentralplus.com) has joined ##forth 08:15:34 KipIngram, I've watched the entire series 3 times now. Such amazing writing and actors. 08:16:39 Wow. I've actually not seen the last couple of seasons. 08:17:03 I thought it wasn't quite as good after season 2 or so, but those first couple of seasons I'd say is some of the best TV ever made. 08:17:14 I found Draper endlessly fascinating. 08:19:48 -!- impomatic(~impomatic@host86-162-94-150.range86-162.btcentralplus.com) has joined ##forth 08:22:43 --- quit: Zarutian_HTC1 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 08:26:36 --- join: Zarutian_HTC joined #forth 08:30:02 -!- siraben`(~user@103.206.205.210) has joined ##forth 08:31:18 -!- siraben`(~user@103.206.205.210) has joined ##forth 08:33:18 --- quit: cbridge-libera (Remote host closed the connection) 08:34:45 --- quit: cp- (Quit: Disappeared in a puff of smoke) 08:35:16 --- join: cp- joined #forth 08:35:41 KipIngram, yeah but it did have a good final show. So few long running series ever get that. I did dig his new French Canadian wife though. :-) 08:36:10 Oh you have a lot of Mad Men watching to catch up on... haha 08:36:23 Oh yeah - Megan. Totally hot! 09:30:59 --- join: cbridge-libera joined #forth 09:41:28 --- quit: gravicappa (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 09:44:40 --- join: gravicappa joined #forth 09:47:43 -!- kluk(~kluk@2603-7000-9b3f-6934-6417-29db-6208-fab1.res6.spectrum.com) has joined ##forth 09:48:23 --- quit: Bogen85 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09:48:52 --- join: Bogen85 joined #forth 09:51:13 -!- kluk(~kluk@2603-7000-9b3f-6934-6417-29db-6208-fab1.res6.spectrum.com) has joined ##forth 09:57:53 -!- kluk(~kluk@2603-7000-9b3f-6934-6417-29db-6208-fab1.res6.spectrum.com) has joined ##forth 10:00:21 bridge seems to be working 10:03:06 it's having some timeout issues on the freenode side 10:03:16 --- quit: rixard () 10:04:16 aha 10:04:24 maybe fn is being ddos'd :) 10:04:47 -!- kluk(~kluk@2603-7000-9b3f-6934-6417-29db-6208-fab1.res6.spectrum.com) has joined ##forth 10:04:51 Oh, surely no one would do that... ;-) 10:09:15 --- part: tolja left #forth 10:09:16 -!- sennomo(~sennomo@cpe-108-183-47-81.stny.res.rr.com) has joined ##forth 10:09:32 no, I have a bot in #mecrisp that's pointing people to #mecrisp on irc.hackint.org that's staying connected w/o problems 10:11:15 -!- kluk(~kluk@2603-7000-9b3f-6934-6417-29db-6208-fab1.res6.spectrum.com) has joined ##forth 10:13:48 maybe we could bridge between their channels there and ours :) 10:14:12 as long as that does not keep circulating the same messages through 3 different bots in 3 different channels 10:14:13 lol 10:14:43 it won't do that (it filters out things it posts) 10:16:36 kk lol because i could see it going me -> bot a -> to bot b -> bot c -> bot a -> .... ad infinitum lo; 10:16:37 lol 10:17:00 -!- kluk(~kluk@2603-7000-9b3f-6934-6417-29db-6208-fab1.res6.spectrum.com) has joined ##forth 10:18:21 crc: only JOINs, and PRIVMSG being sent over via the bridge or? 10:23:27 Zarutian_HTC: at this point, yes 10:23:45 -!- kluk(~kluk@2603-7000-9b3f-6934-6417-29db-6208-fab1.res6.spectrum.com) has joined ##forth 10:24:17 crc: might want to add QUITs and PARTs too 10:24:55 yeah. I'll work on that. 10:30:26 -!- kluk(~kluk@2603-7000-9b3f-6934-6417-29db-6208-fab1.res6.spectrum.com) has joined ##forth 10:32:50 this is unfortunate since my client is configured to ignore joins, quits, and parts except for active participants 10:33:14 i guess i can just ignore a pattern that matches joins, quits, and parts messages from cbridge-libera 10:37:15 -!- kluk(~kluk@2603-7000-9b3f-6934-6417-29db-6208-fab1.res6.spectrum.com) has joined ##forth 10:38:31 how does it determine active participants? 10:44:08 -!- kluk(~kluk@2603-7000-9b3f-6934-6417-29db-6208-fab1.res6.spectrum.com) has joined ##forth 10:50:50 -!- kluk(~kluk@2603-7000-9b3f-6934-6417-29db-6208-fab1.res6.spectrum.com) has joined ##forth 10:58:10 -!- kluk(~kluk@2603-7000-9b3f-6934-6417-29db-6208-fab1.res6.spectrum.com) has joined ##forth 11:03:09 -!- X-Scale`(~ARM@74.80.103.87.rev.vodafone.pt) has joined ##forth 11:04:12 -!- kluk(~kluk@2603-7000-9b3f-6934-6417-29db-6208-fab1.res6.spectrum.com) has joined ##forth 11:10:45 -!- kluk(~kluk@2603-7000-9b3f-6934-6417-29db-6208-fab1.res6.spectrum.com) has joined ##forth 11:17:41 -!- kluk(~kluk@2603-7000-9b3f-6934-6417-29db-6208-fab1.res6.spectrum.com) has joined ##forth 11:24:32 -!- kluk(~kluk@2603-7000-9b3f-6934-6417-29db-6208-fab1.res6.spectrum.com) has joined ##forth 11:27:13 -!- kluk_(~kluk@2603-7000-9b3f-6934-6417-29db-6208-fab1.res6.spectrum.com) has joined ##forth 11:29:40 erm actually could we silence repeated /joins lolk 11:30:05 oh thats what you are talking about maybe :) 11:32:07 -!- kluk(~kluk@2603-7000-9b3f-6934-6417-29db-6208-fab1.res6.spectrum.com) has joined ##forth 11:35:02 mark4: I'm looking into that 11:35:09 crc ya :) 11:35:40 but tbh im prepared to suffer the constant join/leave spam from disconnects more than im prepared to accept the fragmentation of the channel 11:35:55 but i will never set foot on that server 11:35:56 not ever 11:36:07 if freenode goes down permanantly ill find a new home 11:36:51 I have #forth on hackint and there's also one on oftc :) 11:37:06 the 11:37:15 hmmm... this bot stuff is crazy 11:37:45 I think I should release a few thousand bots on libera 11:37:46 -!- kluk(~kluk@2603-7000-9b3f-6934-6417-29db-6208-fab1.res6.spectrum.com) has joined ##forth 11:38:22 kluk: having connection issues? 11:38:42 @crc: yes but I don't know why 11:38:44 ok, this is supposed to be legitimate bot... (cbridge-libera) 11:38:50 not a spam bot 11:38:54 I was told to check my router log files, haven't done it yet... 11:39:25 Bogen85: yes, cbridge-* is my bot to relay messages between servers 11:40:07 yeah, I'm looking back through the conservation, understanding now 11:40:35 the bot should be able to filter some of that (or detect and not repeat) 11:40:57 similar to what loggers do with repeated messages 11:41:23 are they just portscanning the entire IP address space? I got spam on my extremely obscure IRC network 11:43:35 Bogen85: yes, I'm looking into how to handle that; it'll take a bit of time though; I haven't written anything quite like this before, so don't have words written to detect the duplicates yet. And when I enable quit/part, it'll be a little harder as I'll need to watch more context. 11:44:57 -!- kluk(~kluk@2603-7000-9b3f-6934-6417-29db-6208-fab1.res6.spectrum.com) has joined ##forth 11:46:40 @crc> how does it determine active participants? <-- they have to have spoken or done a /me, etc. within some time period. the code is hard to follow for me, i think that time period works out to 80 minutes, but i'm not confident with that nor do i understand why the author thought it needed to be so confusing 11:47:25 cmtptr: I may be able to do something similar since I am capturing time stamps for each message; I'll look at that 11:47:36 cool, thanks! 11:47:53 the only downside is that of course you lose all new /joins 11:48:00 for the moment, I've set it to ignore JOINs for the moment 11:48:11 you only see a join when someone who was talking parts and then joins again shortly later 11:49:49 true 11:49:58 lots to do still :) 11:52:32 -!- kluk(~kluk@2603-7000-9b3f-6934-6417-29db-6208-fab1.res6.spectrum.com) has joined ##forth 12:07:56 --- quit: gravicappa (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 12:12:19 crc, i trust you're writing this thing in retro? 12:13:55 lol 12:14:02 yes 12:14:03 --- quit: cheater (Quit: (BitchX) I theenk I need a beeger box!) 12:14:07 at one time, a long time ago there was a BBS dedicated to the forth programming languate 12:14:17 connection is handled by ii from suckless, the processing is in retro 12:14:18 the ***ENTIRE*** bbs was written in dos batch NOT FORTH 12:15:13 --- join: cheater joined #forth 12:15:30 (replacing `ii` with a similar thing in retro is something I might do later) 12:17:17 --- quit: cheater (Client Quit) 12:18:18 mark4, that sounds like a nightmare and a half 12:18:31 --- join: cheater joined #forth 12:18:34 it was lol 12:18:54 they got really really REALLY pissy with my father (who taught me forth) why it wasnt written in forth :) 12:20:56 --- quit: cheater (Client Quit) 12:24:49 --- quit: wineroots (Remote host closed the connection) 12:25:23 --- join: cheater joined #forth 12:26:15 --- quit: cheater (Changing host) 12:26:15 --- join: cheater joined #forth 12:28:25 I vaguely recall DOS batch files 12:28:56 i wish i did not :P~ 12:35:55 http://forth.works/share/e43d5dd3c1daa8aba95ee58a96bafae4.html or http://forth.works/share/e43d5dd3c1daa8aba95ee58a96bafae4 is the initial version of this little bridging bot. 12:37:26 it's not efficient yet (I need to look into using kqueue to watch for changes to the `out` files rather than constantly polling over them), and needs a bunch of refactoring 12:39:07 :delay 'sleep_0.5 unix:system ; that's interesting 12:39:19 what if you want to invoke a system command that uses an underscore? 12:39:36 (sorry i haven't looked into retro much) 12:39:40 'sleep\_0.5 s:format 12:40:20 aah 12:40:55 yeah, i see what you mean - it's just polling every half-second, could be designed to be event-driven 12:56:49 crc, could the joins be considered a "log channel" (or something similiar) and if you query the bot you could subscribe to that "log channel"? 12:57:48 Bogen85, I could probably setup something for that 12:59:16 thats a cool idea :) 13:05:29 --- quit: Bogen85 (Quit: Leaving) 13:05:37 --- join: Bogen85 joined #forth 13:16:05 --- nick: mark4 -> mark4[MFNGA] 13:19:15 lol 13:19:35 well that surely won't ruffle feathers 13:26:19 --- join: MrM|Hex joined #forth 13:28:30 lol 13:28:31 nah 13:29:28 [MFNGA] ? 13:30:38 hahahahahahaha 13:30:44 We need caps! 13:30:58 Make Freenode Great Again lol 13:31:17

lol 13:31:26 Heh 13:31:26

nice bridge 14:17:07 --- join: rber joined #forth 14:36:55 --- join: rtdos joined #forth 14:36:55 --- join: proteanthread joined #forth 14:39:24 --- part: MrM|Hex left #forth 14:57:23 --- join: Zarutian_HTC1 joined #forth 14:57:28 --- quit: Zarutian_HTC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 15:24:21 maw 15:37:11 Hi dave0. 15:47:04 Holy cow - the sky just "unzipped" and it's raining like mad. 15:49:48

weird may here 16:04:47 --- join: boru` joined #forth 16:04:50 --- quit: boru (Disconnected by services) 16:04:52 --- nick: boru` -> boru 16:05:52 --- quit: xek (Remote host closed the connection) 16:06:15 --- join: xek joined #forth 16:11:11 --- quit: boru (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 16:12:48 crazy may here too as far as rain 16:14:39 --- join: boru joined #forth 16:15:19 hi robot 16:22:28 --- part: remexre left #forth 16:23:34

mhhh I am not sure relaying part/join messages is worth it 16:23:45

(at least, I do not see other bridges doing it) 16:38:50 --- join: MrM|Hex joined #forth 16:45:29 --- quit: Bogen85 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16:45:53 --- join: Bogen85 joined #forth 16:47:50 --- nick: Zarutian_HTC1 -> Zarutian_HTC 16:49:03 Earlier I heard some talk about handling part/join in a slightly modified way. Don't know if anything is planned there or not, though. 16:56:17 MrMobius: re: the "building a calculator" thing, I suppose I could consider the work I am doing now as "in that direction"; I am hoping that this particular Forth I'm working on now becomes the basis of all of my future projects. 17:03:58 KipIngram, ya good idea targeting arm then 17:04:12 -!- immibis(~immibis@62.156.144.218) has left ##forth 17:09:03 Well, my first target is x86, but I've deliberately planned for portability to ARM. 17:09:36 There's a layer in the softwarre stack that's confined to. 17:10:16 You could think of that layer as implementing a vm, and then the rest is written for that vm. 17:10:46 I've attempted to have a vm that has efficient implementations on both platforms. 17:11:56 I call those bits "portable instructions," and they're implemented as assembly macros. Sometimes a macro is empty on x86, because the efficient x86 implementation doesn't need that one. 17:12:27 But that's ok - an empty macro in assembly just... doesn't do anything. Adds no code. 17:14:47 KipIngram: what about the new kid on the block, risc-v? 17:19:20 I'm unfamiliar with that. I'll have to take a look. 17:19:35 --- quit: cbridge-libera (Remote host closed the connection) 17:19:38 Zarutian_HTC, also no stock yet :/ 17:19:42 --- join: cbridge-libera joined #forth 17:21:48 Looks ambitious. 17:35:00 --- quit: Zarutian_HTC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17:35:13 --- join: Zarutian_HTC joined #forth 18:05:33 --- quit: boru (*.net *.split) 18:05:35 --- quit: Bogen85 (*.net *.split) 18:05:35 --- quit: cheater (*.net *.split) 18:08:49 --- quit: Vedran (*.net *.split) 18:15:41 --- join: Bogen85 joined #forth 18:15:42 --- join: boru joined #forth 18:15:42 --- join: cheater joined #forth 18:15:42 --- join: Vedran joined #forth 18:25:37 --- join: wineroots joined #forth 18:28:10 there was a kickstarter for an rpi type board on kickstarter for $99 18:28:47 im getting my irc clients mixed up 18:28:57 where the pi costs $40? 18:29:02 is this other board more powerful? 18:29:23 64 bit with 16g of ram and a couple of sata ports ? 18:29:26 that would be nice 18:31:38 1ghz and 1gb ram is what sticks in my mind 18:31:56 i dont think risc v is taking over any time soon 18:32:41 --- join: boru` joined #forth 18:32:44 --- quit: boru (Disconnected by services) 18:32:46 --- nick: boru` -> boru 18:35:00 1gb of ram is pitiful cant even compile half of gentoo with that 18:35:06 the pi has 4 or 8g 18:39:58 Think about what that statement says about our lifetimes. 18:40:05 That 1 GB of RAM is "pitiful." 18:40:11 My first computer had 16k. 18:41:14 It's easy to take that curve for granted, but the last 40 years have been nothing short of amazing. 18:43:29 software on most modern systems is extremely bloated... Desktop, Laptops, Tablets, Phones, etc... 18:45:27 yes but who cares 18:50:35 Well, yes, it is. I want to think we could have done that better if we'd... "somehow been smarter," but maybe it's just a lot harder than one might think. I mean, you're about to get all this new hardware power dropped in your lap, and your job is to figure out how to take advantage of it. Is that really an easy problem? 18:51:02 One could argue that it used to be a high specialty to be able to work with computers, and today almost anybody can do the basics. 18:51:20 Maybe some of that power was invested in making the technology "more accessible." 18:52:10 i think it gets wasted on not paying more for salaries to make projects last longer where better performance wouldnt much matter 18:52:21 I'm not really a fan / proponent of swanky GUIs, but I think they do "dumb down" the interface to things quite a bit. 18:52:24 which is a legit thing to add bloat for 18:52:34 Hard to argue with that. 18:59:23 --- quit: MrM|Hex (Quit: Leaving) 19:01:13 --- quit: MrMobius (Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Organize your IRC) 19:03:31 --- join: gravicappa joined #forth 19:04:06 KipIngram, come to #freenode-policy and say that lol 19:04:19 they seemt o be able to argue anything lol 19:05:41 I'm not touchin' that one. 19:06:28 But arguing seems to be our favorite pasttime in recent years. 19:14:28 --- quit: sts-q (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19:17:11 --- join: sts-q joined #forth 19:17:42 what is it like to not argue with a person 19:18:33 after working from home for over a year even my cat and i bicker 19:24:23 --- quit: cbridge-libera (Remote host closed the connection) 19:26:36 --- join: MrMobius joined #forth 19:28:52 --- quit: MrMobius (Quit: Leaving) 19:29:24 --- join: MrMobius joined #forth 19:30:44 --- join: cbridge-libera joined #forth 19:35:47 --- quit: MrMobius (Quit: Leaving) 19:36:13 --- join: MrMobius joined #forth 19:39:10 --- quit: MrMobius (Remote host closed the connection) 19:41:10 --- join: MrMobius joined #forth 19:48:36 --- nick: klys -> klysm 19:52:02 --- join: klys joined #forth 19:54:25 ping 19:54:37 pong 19:55:08 channel monitor plug in is working, woohoo 19:55:54 the bridge is still having some stability issues 19:59:13 --- quit: proteanthread (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19:59:13 --- quit: rtdos (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20:06:17 crc, did you see libera offers some bridge bot? 20:08:14 No 20:08:44 Any pointers to this? I don't see anything on their website 20:08:55 so they can track everything we say for nefarious purposes :P~ 20:09:00 no i dont actually believe that lol 20:10:39 mark4[MFNGA]: we're publicly logged anyway - no need to mine :) 20:11:15 which is why i have no problems lol 20:11:32 this is a public forum and anyone who wants to datamine #forth dont need to SPY on us 20:11:39 they can do it by datamining the published logs lol 20:12:10 someone said and what about your PMs here are those public too? 20:12:58 my answer was yes. my PMs are public and i never say anything in them that is absolutely private 20:13:10 how do i know you are not logging your chats here and publishing them? 20:13:22 i have ZERO expectation of privacy in anything i say on this network 20:13:36 it really is that simple lol 20:22:43 --- quit: proteus-guy (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 20:27:02 I make it simpler than that. I have no expectations of privacy ever. Makes life easier. Just assume everybody's out to get you and the 99.44% of the times you're right will not shock you. 20:35:03 --- join: proteus-guy joined #forth 20:43:42 I don't share important information with people outside my family, but I do share personal information that I'd PREFER not to have circulated to the world with people I regard as "friends." The meaningfulness of the information would depend on how good the friendship is. Sure - one of them might share that information with someone else, in which case I will reconsider how good a friend that person is. 20:43:53 But it'll never be something that really causes me any severe problem. 21:19:38 --- quit: Lord_Nightmare (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 21:25:04 --- join: Lord_Nightmare joined #forth 22:25:35 --- join: andrei-n joined #forth 22:34:40 --- quit: Lord_Nightmare (Remote host closed the connection) 22:36:25 --- join: Lord_Nightmare joined #forth 22:38:48 --- nick: cheater -> cheater2 22:46:09 --- quit: cheater2 (Quit: (BitchX) Tiger Woods uses BitchX. 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