00:00:00 --- log: started forth/21.01.27 00:30:11 --- join: xek_ joined #forth 00:39:38 --- quit: Vedran (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00:39:58 --- join: Vedran joined #forth 00:59:51 --- quit: Vedran (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 01:00:44 --- join: Vedran joined #forth 01:07:54 --- quit: iyzsong (Quit: ZNC 1.7.5 - https://znc.in) 01:08:36 --- join: iyzsong joined #forth 01:56:14 --- quit: gravicappa (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 01:59:14 --- join: gravicappa joined #forth 02:47:38 --- join: cheater joined #forth 02:47:41 hi 02:48:17 are there any forths with variables? as in not data that's on the stack, but either stuff that's at a specific memory address, or under a label of some sort? 02:49:18 cheater: Do you know about VARIABLE? Or VALUE? 02:49:29 not really 02:49:31 Or locals 02:49:43 would you like to tell me about them? 02:49:43 Then the answer is yes, wasn't sure if you meant something different to that 02:49:48 OK 02:50:03 how do they work though? 02:50:19 https://forth-standard.org/standard/core/VARIABLE 02:50:23 do they just keep track of stack depth and then fetch the variable from the stack all the way up? 02:50:29 https://forth-standard.org/standard/core/VALUE 02:50:41 No, they create space in the dictionary for the value 02:50:59 And they create a word to access either the address or just return the value (which is what VALUE does) 02:51:27 VARIABLE test 0 test ! test @ . \ prints 0 02:51:46 VALUE test 0 TO test test . \ prints 0 02:52:11 oh 02:52:20 i didn't know about the dictionary i guess 02:52:22 CREATE test 0 , test @ . \ prints 0 02:52:31 makes more sense now 02:52:41 No problem, what are you reading to learn? 02:53:18 nothing right now :) just watching some videos online of people using various languages 02:53:25 You should read starting forth or something, but feel free to ask stuff like this in here, there's no rule against not knowing much forth 02:53:33 (right now i'm watching a basic video though) 02:53:42 thanks i really appreciate this 02:54:09 Bear in mind this is a low latency channel, i.e. ask a question and it might take a day for someone to answer 02:54:18 I just happened to be on a break :P 02:57:22 yeah i know 02:57:25 i hang out in here :) 02:57:41 this is what i'm watching right now by the way... it's basic though, not forth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CMvXGYHyT4 03:18:52 --- quit: iyzsong (Quit: ZNC 1.7.5 - https://znc.in) 03:21:52 --- join: iyzsong joined #forth 05:27:24 wouldn't that be high latency? 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08:56:23 --- join: guan joined #forth 08:56:25 --- join: crc joined #forth 08:56:31 --- join: mstevens joined #forth 08:56:48 --- join: rann joined #forth 09:07:52 --- quit: Vedran (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 09:08:55 --- join: Vedran joined #forth 09:16:00 --- quit: Vedran (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 09:16:38 --- join: Vedran joined #forth 09:21:30 --- join: vassenn joined #forth 09:21:59 --- quit: Vedran (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 09:22:00 --- quit: crc (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 09:24:49 --- quit: vassenn (Quit: Bye) 09:28:11 --- join: Vedran joined #forth 09:29:24 --- join: crc joined #forth 09:36:18 --- join: ezekielwordswort joined #forth 09:37:12 Hello, What are some books to get me started on Forth? and whats the best forth implementation? 09:58:54 starting forth by leo brodie is a classic 09:59:03 and conveniently free onlijne 09:59:38 --- join: xek_ joined #forth 10:01:58 --- quit: xek (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 10:03:57 cheater, veltas> Bear in mind this is a low latency channel, i.e. ask a question and it might take a day for someone to answer 10:04:23 cmtptr: oh lol 10:04:51 ezekielwordswort, the best forth implementation is the one your book uses 10:04:56 --- quit: ovf (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 10:05:16 --- quit: rann (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 10:05:55 --- join: rann joined #forth 10:06:51 --- join: ovf joined #forth 10:08:47 --- join: X-Scale joined #forth 10:16:15 --- quit: ovf (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 10:16:36 --- quit: rann (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 10:17:43 --- quit: dnm (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 10:18:46 --- join: dnm joined #forth 10:20:35 --- join: rann joined #forth 10:21:45 --- join: ovf joined #forth 10:25:38 --- quit: dnm (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 10:27:55 --- quit: ovf (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 10:27:55 --- quit: rann (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 10:32:12 --- join: dnm joined #forth 10:32:42 --- quit: ezekielwordswort (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 10:34:01 --- join: rann joined #forth 10:34:55 --- join: ovf joined #forth 10:39:29 --- join: ezekielwordswort joined #forth 10:48:40 --- quit: ezekielwordswort (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 10:55:05 --- quit: rann (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 10:55:26 --- quit: ovf (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 10:57:05 --- quit: dnm (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 11:03:43 --- quit: zolk3ri (Remote host closed the connection) 11:05:06 --- join: rann joined #forth 11:05:21 --- join: dnm joined #forth 11:09:00 --- join: zolk3ri joined #forth 11:11:12 --- quit: dnm (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 11:12:33 --- join: Zarutian_HTC joined #forth 11:14:59 --- join: dnm joined #forth 11:17:09 --- join: ovf joined #forth 11:20:25 --- quit: Vedran (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 11:21:31 --- join: Vedran joined #forth 11:37:52 --- quit: Vedran (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 11:38:52 --- join: Vedran joined #forth 11:40:54 --- quit: dnm (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 11:43:36 --- join: dnm joined #forth 12:08:00 --- quit: zolk3ri (Remote host closed the connection) 12:10:48 --- quit: dysprosaic (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 12:10:56 --- join: dysprosaic joined #forth 12:43:34 --- quit: gravicappa (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 12:51:16 --- join: zolk3ri joined #forth 13:09:37 --- join: gravicappa joined #forth 13:23:17 --- quit: gravicappa (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 13:29:40 --- quit: xek_ (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 13:47:27 --- quit: cheater (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 13:50:58 --- quit: patrickg (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 13:51:10 --- quit: jimt[m] (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 13:51:39 --- quit: MrMobius (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 13:51:51 --- quit: siraben (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 13:52:44 --- join: MrMobius joined #forth 13:55:36 --- quit: Chobbes (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 13:56:22 --- join: cheater joined #forth 13:56:46 --- quit: zolk3ri (Remote host closed the connection) 13:57:32 --- join: Chobbes joined #forth 15:08:24 --- quit: Croran (Quit: Croran) 15:19:39 --- join: patrickg joined #forth 15:24:13 --- quit: patrickg (Client Quit) 15:26:49 --- quit: rpcope (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 15:29:21 --- join: rpcope joined #forth 15:33:24 --- join: siraben joined #forth 15:41:48 --- join: jimt[m] joined #forth 15:41:48 --- join: patrickg joined #forth 15:56:53 --- join: [1]MrMobius joined #forth 15:57:11 --- quit: MrMobius (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 15:57:17 --- nick: [1]MrMobius -> MrMobius 16:04:17 cmtptr: Yes 16:04:25 You know what I mean 16:07:09 look what is the point of irc if not to pedantically point out other people's inconsequential mistakes 16:10:57 --- join: zolk3ri joined #forth 16:11:45 idling? 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