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Do you use ROBODoc with Forth? If so, I would like to see some examples... 13:57:09 --- join: dave0 joined #forth 14:11:51 --- quit: andrei-n (Quit: Leaving) 14:29:37 tabemann: the stlink developers responded 14:29:38 https://github.com/stlink-org/stlink/issues/982#issuecomment-643678465 14:47:50 --- join: TCZ joined #forth 14:56:40 --- quit: gravicappa (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 15:15:44 tabemann, NOTICE: This bug report may be closed without further notice, if not enough information is provided! ... ACHTUNG!!!! if not enough information is provided the bug will go away and fix itself!!!! 15:26:21 --- quit: TCZ (Quit: Leaving) 15:34:43 --- quit: WickedShell (Remote host closed the connection) 16:09:04 --- join: jsoft joined #forth 17:22:07 tabemann, hahah, gronk:/home/tp:#arm-none-eabi-gdb -ex "target extended-remote /dev/cuaU0" 17:22:07 GNU gdb (GDB) 7.10 17:29:48 --- join: X-Scale` joined #forth 17:30:35 --- quit: X-Scale (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 17:30:39 --- nick: X-Scale` -> X-Scale 17:43:20 --- quit: Zarutian_HTC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17:43:32 --- join: Zarutian_HTC joined #forth 17:44:42 --- join: iyzsong joined #forth 17:51:35 --- join: jedb joined #forth 17:52:58 --- join: jedb_ joined #forth 17:56:04 --- quit: jedb (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 17:59:53 --- quit: jsoft (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 18:46:59 --- join: X-Scale` joined #forth 18:47:23 --- quit: reepca (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18:47:53 --- join: reepca joined #forth 18:49:24 --- quit: X-Scale (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 18:49:25 --- nick: X-Scale` -> X-Scale 18:54:55 --- join: boru` joined #forth 18:54:58 --- quit: boru (Disconnected by services) 18:55:01 --- nick: boru` -> boru 18:59:33 --- join: jsoft joined #forth 19:30:56 --- quit: dave0 (Quit: dave's not here) 19:43:37 back 20:02:41 --- quit: iyzsong (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 20:03:35 --- join: iyzsong joined #forth 20:12:50 --- join: iyzsong- joined #forth 20:13:18 --- quit: iyzsong (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 20:17:37 --- quit: reepca (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20:17:58 --- join: reepca joined #forth 20:24:34 --- quit: reepca (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20:25:05 --- join: reepca joined #forth 20:30:59 hey tabemann 20:52:02 --- join: Zarutian_HTC| joined #forth 20:52:02 --- quit: Zarutian_HTC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20:55:39 hey 20:56:14 tabemann, I've flashed a blue pill with the blckmagic probe software 20:57:20 it provides a GDB server and a serial port via usb virt com ports 20:58:02 #arm-none-eabi-gdb -ex "target extended-remote /dev/cuaU0" 20:58:03 GNU gdb (GDB) 7.10 20:58:03 Copyright (C) 2015 Free Software Foundation, Inc. 20:58:22 cool 20:58:52 as it has SWD capabilty, it's probably better than using stlink 20:59:02 because it's all on a stm32f103 20:59:41 something for crest to look into if he's interested 21:00:21 I'm really frustrated with the stlink people 21:00:21 I'll be using it from now on because stlink and openocd wont build under openindiana 21:00:31 yeah, theyre a bit leet 21:00:40 they basically said don't use stlink 1.6.1 because they won't fix it 21:00:47 I refuse to use the software 21:01:13 it as buggy as a anthill 21:01:26 right now I'm using stlink 1.6.0 installed from source 21:01:32 which works fine for me 21:01:35 but given their attitude Im not surprised 21:02:04 a $2 blue pill would work the same with blackmagic probe 21:02:18 they were like "oh the shared library wasn't really meant for public consumption so we're not really supporting it" 21:02:21 thi youd need some wires 21:02:26 hahah 21:03:04 I see now why people favor the blackmagic stuff, it's all self contained for gdb 21:03:11 no farting around 21:03:48 I don't like the idea of working with blue pills though for some reason 21:04:01 hahah 21:04:07 you dodnt have to 21:04:28 you flash the blackmagic binary and thats it 21:04:45 besides, youre using the mcu now 21:05:03 there is a stm32f103 in your disco boards 21:06:03 i need to mod the source in the blackmagic to add RTS handshaking before it's 100% useful to me 21:07:21 tabemann, hey I compiled Fossil SCM under openindiana last night, that course is just beautiful 21:07:35 what a difference to the stlink and openocd stuff 21:07:49 course = source 21:18:26 back 21:21:29 my main concern is that with a blue pill who knows what chip it contains 21:21:42 thats true 21:21:44 whereas with a disco board you know that it's a real stm32f103 21:21:51 exactly 21:22:19 one can always buy a blackmagic board 21:22:38 but yeah, it's a crapshoot with the bluepill 21:23:05 is there a manufacturer that you can buy a real blue pill from? is that what the maple mini IIRC is? 21:23:27 I had 10 boards with stm32f103's I bought from china, not bluepills but electrically the same, thats what I used with the blackmagig fw 21:23:53 yeah, but even then any board from china may have the fakes 21:24:09 even boards sold in the USA cheap come from china 21:24:17 I mean buying it directly from the original manufacturer 21:24:34 oh! there is a stmf4 diso blackmagic probe fw 21:25:04 like when I bought my disco boards I bought them directly from STMicroelectronics 21:25:07 I dont know anything about it 21:25:46 dunno re the maple, but people asked me to add suport for it to my stm32f103-diags app 21:26:33 Links 21:26:34 ----- 21:26:34 https://github.com/blacksphere/blackmagic/wiki 21:26:34 https://jeelabs.org/docs/software/bmp/ 21:26:34 https://buger.dread.cz/black-magic-probe-bmp-on-bluepill-stm32f103c8-minimum-system-development-board.html 21:26:50 Blackmagic Binaries 21:26:50 ------------------- 21:26:50 http://builds.blacksphere.co.nz/blackmagic/ 21:27:39 f4discovery http://builds.blacksphere.co.nz/blackmagic/blackmagic-f4discovery.bin 21:33:13 --- quit: iyzsong- (Quit: ZNC 1.8.0 - https://znc.in) 21:34:42 * tabemann doesn't trust the chinese with parts that could be counterfeit in the first place (as opposed to generic parts) 21:35:16 with very good reason 21:35:37 one cant trust most chineese stuff 21:35:42 not mcu's 21:35:50 hell not IC's 21:36:34 tabemann, I see the Chinese SWD programmers come with the GD32f103 clone chips now 21:36:49 or he CS32F103, I think thats it 21:36:56 it's close enuf to work 21:37:08 it even uses the STM FW ! 21:40:06 the stuff that I'll buy chinese are stuff like USB cables, serial dongles, dupont cables, USB breakout boards, stuff like that 21:42:32 yeah 21:43:53 like with my MCU board, for my (yet unused) RPi I bought it from an officially licensed distributor, so I knew it was kosher 21:44:00 *boards 21:45:56 Adafruit I think it was 21:46:27 --- join: gravicappa joined #forth 21:46:52 rpi's arent cloned I believe 21:47:25 and adafruit, seed studio etc are all ok, like mousser 21:47:42 avenet etc 21:50:50 I can't believe that I bought an RPi just to have one, when I had no projected use at the time and still have no projected use in the future 21:52:03 oh, the blackmagic stuff can also run on a rpi I believe 21:52:16 so a rpi cn be a gdb server, htag and swd programmer 21:53:13 hmm that way I can actually use my rpi for something 21:53:31 question - do rpis default to having a serial console over USB 21:53:55 because it does have an HDMI (mini?) port 21:54:05 but I don't want to hook up a monitor 21:54:48 depends, I usually use ssh for a console over ethernet to one 21:55:30 --- join: iyzsong joined #forth 21:55:33 when you configure raspbian you add a file in the SD card that tells it to use SSH by default 21:55:43 I use them a fair bit 21:56:05 what do you need when configuring raspbian? 21:56:13 theyre very useful, but sadly not all x86 source will work on them 21:56:32 not much, a SD card and a rasbian image 21:56:44 I have that 21:56:56 it's a very handy spare computer 21:57:23 I used one as a e4thcom terminal for a year of so 21:58:18 so you have to hook up an SD card writer to write to the card to write the relevant files, then insert it in the board? 21:58:29 theyre a bit slow compared to a decent pc, for instance stuff that takes 10 minutes on this can take 24 hrs on a rpi 21:59:13 no you just dl the raspbian image, write it to the card, mont the card on your pc and create a simple file with the ssh thing 21:59:20 a Google will find it 21:59:59 the machine then boots up and gets a IP and you ssh to that and youre in 22:00:54 damn compiling blackmagic probe isnt easy, this Linux source is terrible 22:01:18 how do you configure the users - does it just allow you to root in without a passwd? 22:01:20 once, Linux people did source perfectly 22:01:45 assuming that you'll change the root passwd afterwards 22:01:56 iirc when you log in first tiMe it then sets that up 22:02:06 it's all dead easy 22:02:16 thats why the rpi is so popular 22:02:34 I have about 5 of them 22:02:48 * tabemann will need to invest in a couple short ethernet cables and, unless he can find the one he has, a switch 22:03:00 hahah 22:03:11 $17 for a 5 port switch 22:03:21 $5 a ethernet cable 22:05:13 anyways, I'm falling asleep, and will get the stuff needed for interfacing with that rpi when I get around to actually needing a blackmagic probe 22:05:49 no problemo 22:05:52 nighto 22:05:55 g'night 22:07:20 --- quit: dddddd (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/20.06.13