00:00:00 --- log: started forth/20.05.29 00:05:28 --- nick: Guest70979 -> JITn 00:26:46 --- join: andrei-n joined #forth 00:59:06 --- quit: mtsd (Quit: Leaving) 01:02:05 --- join: dys joined #forth 01:17:48 --- quit: reepca (Remote host closed the connection) 01:17:57 --- join: reepca joined #forth 01:59:30 --- quit: dddddd (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 03:32:07 --- join: iyzsong joined #forth 03:37:00 --- join: TCZ joined #forth 03:37:22 --- nick: TCZ -> DoomSlayer2020 04:16:16 --- quit: DoomSlayer2020 (Quit: Leaving) 05:41:28 --- join: TCZ joined #forth 05:50:34 --- quit: TCZ (Quit: Leaving) 05:59:03 --- quit: dave0 (Quit: dave's not here) 06:15:56 --- quit: iyzsong (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 06:16:41 --- join: iyzsong joined #forth 06:42:53 --- quit: iyzsong (Quit: ZNC 1.7.1 - https://znc.in) 06:45:18 --- join: karswell_ joined #forth 07:06:32 --- join: antaoiseach joined #forth 07:22:58 --- quit: antaoiseach (Quit: leaving) 07:45:05 --- quit: karswell_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 07:46:27 --- join: karswell_ joined #forth 07:46:54 --- quit: reepca (Remote host closed the connection) 07:47:04 --- join: reepca joined #forth 07:56:29 --- join: WickedShell joined #forth 07:58:58 --- quit: karswell_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08:00:25 --- join: karswell_ joined #forth 08:07:30 --- join: X-Scale` joined #forth 08:10:25 --- quit: X-Scale (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 08:10:25 --- nick: X-Scale` -> X-Scale 08:12:29 --- join: dddddd joined #forth 08:38:16 --- quit: reepca (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 09:24:42 --- quit: Zarutian_HTC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 09:26:29 --- quit: dys (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 09:36:15 --- join: Zarutian_HTC joined #forth 09:47:40 --- quit: jsoft (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 10:01:15 --- join: Zarutian_HTC| joined #forth 10:01:15 --- quit: Zarutian_HTC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 10:04:59 --- quit: Keshl (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 10:05:28 --- join: Keshl joined #forth 10:06:42 --- quit: Keshl (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 10:06:57 --- join: Keshl joined #forth 10:59:55 --- quit: Zarutian_HTC| (Quit: Bye) 11:18:11 --- quit: karswell_ (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 11:22:05 --- quit: cantstanya (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 11:24:44 --- join: cantstanya joined #forth 11:38:31 --- join: TCZ joined #forth 11:42:08 --- nick: TCZ -> DoomSlasher2020 11:42:26 --- nick: DoomSlasher2020 -> MoodSlayer2020 11:43:30 --- quit: MoodSlayer2020 (Quit: Leaving) 12:21:48 --- join: dys joined #forth 12:51:16 --- quit: dys (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 13:36:10 --- quit: WickedShell (Remote host closed the connection) 13:42:06 --- join: WickedShell joined #forth 13:49:18 --- join: GITIB joined #forth 13:49:39 --- part: GITIB left #forth 14:37:21 --- join: xek joined #forth 14:38:14 --- quit: xek (Client Quit) 14:43:08 --- join: xek joined #forth 14:43:08 --- quit: xek (Client Quit) 14:45:56 --- quit: gravicappa (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 15:09:45 --- quit: andrei-n (Quit: Leaving) 15:57:08 --- join: Zarutian_HTC joined #forth 16:19:23 --- join: dave0 joined #forth 16:22:43 --- join: jsoft joined #forth 16:52:12 --- join: iyzsong joined #forth 18:12:35 --- join: boru` joined #forth 18:12:38 --- quit: boru (Disconnected by services) 18:12:41 --- nick: boru` -> boru 19:23:07 tp: I committed the code including FREE as well as the RAM/flash dictionary space validation code 19:24:09 tabemann, excellent, I couldnt find 'free' when I tested it now I know why! 19:24:21 so now if it's running low on RAM or flash (i.e. < 1K) left it'll complain 19:24:35 --- quit: dddddd (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 19:24:44 perfect, it might become useful soon! 19:24:50 you'll need to rebuild the kernel, for the record 19:24:58 no problem 19:25:02 also, I got my Numworks calculator in the mail 19:25:09 whats it like ? 19:25:22 can you feel the quality ? 19:26:05 the aesthetics and design are nice, but of course entering text is easier said than done 19:26:41 thanks to the college board it can't have a real qwerty keyboard 19:27:01 I'm trying to see if there's any way to lock alpha mode 19:27:01 unless you make one possible with usb ? 19:28:04 when I port zeptoforth to the board I could add alpha-lock 19:28:12 s/board/calculator 19:29:28 I have a small fold open bluetooth qwerty keyboard, it's about 10 years old now 19:30:08 I bought it to use with my old Nokia N70 19:30:33 it's pretty nice but a Google just failed toi find it, probably discontinued now 19:31:12 you can definitely find bluetooth qwerty keyboards for tablets and like 19:31:15 my dad has one 19:32:43 yeah, I see lots of them, just not the one I have which is really nice, came in a pouch etc 19:33:22 the only drawback is ... bluetooth as a usb wireless dongle would have been far better 19:36:50 a lot of products these days have those dongles rather than bluetooth 19:37:25 yeah, much better 19:37:42 free unable to parse: free 19:37:55 what am I doing wrong ? 19:38:26 tabemann, suggestion: have mcu type and zeptoforth version number in boot up greeting ? 19:39:32 ahh I know, I recompiled then used a prebuilt binary! 19:40:16 no thats not it as the prebuilts are rebuilt also with make 19:42:19 the only difference between the prebuilts and the non-prebuilts is that the prebuilts *_full* images are generated through a semi-automated process 19:42:55 yes 19:43:19 what is the see command ? 19:43:30 SEE? 19:43:31 SEE 19:43:41 SEE my-word 19:43:52 oops 19:43:57 I meant the free command 19:44:02 FREE 19:44:17 I like your see-for-gas, and I'm close to trying it 19:47:41 tabemann, ahh, so if I rebuild the kernel then I need to load all the *.fs files after manually or scripted 19:48:45 yeah 19:48:47 I cant build a zeptoforth_full-0.5.4.bin from make as I dont have the same serial setup as you 19:49:41 actually, you can, because you use utils/build.sh and it requires you to specify a serial port 19:50:01 you don't need e4thcom, but you do need python 3, because the codeload3.py script it uses is written for python 3 19:51:00 oh, I might try that 19:51:20 I have a few versions of every python version (yuk) 19:51:36 actually, use build.sh and make_full.sh 19:51:47 okies 19:51:54 build.sh builds for every supported platform 19:52:16 make_full.sh builds a *_full* binary for a specific platform 19:52:25 note that build.sh requires one to specify a version number 19:52:33 which can be anything not containing a slash 19:53:27 make_full.sh requires a version number, a platform, and a serial port 19:54:07 cool 19:54:08 note that sometimes make_full.sh hiccups for some reason and won't load the code 19:54:21 I'll try make_full.sh 19:54:30 you need to do build.sh first 19:54:42 oh, ok 19:54:50 no problem, I love automation 20:01:27 tabemann, two additions would make Zeptoforth a lot friendler imho, 1) mcu type and version number in boot up greeting and 2) a word search facility like Crests "match" 20:02:06 I have LOOKUP 20:02:16 well, LOOKUP looks for prefixes 20:03:07 LOOKUP prefix looks up the words that all share a maximal prefix of "prefix" 20:03:32 so 20:03:41 LOOKUP wo 20:03:51 looks up all the words that start with "wo" 20:03:55 oh thats cool 20:03:56 and if there are none 20:04:00 that will do! 20:04:02 all the words that start with "w" 20:04:08 and if there are none 20:04:10 all the words 20:04:19 excellent 20:04:22 it also does it in four columns 20:04:31 even better! 20:04:43 bbs - gotta put my daughter to bed 20:04:49 no problemo 20:30:35 --- quit: cheater (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 20:37:00 back 20:37:17 hey, I've got a new version that displays kernel platform, version, and build date 20:37:27 no release yet, but it's in git now 20:37:32 awesome 20:37:37 I use git only 20:45:16 --- join: iyzsong- joined #forth 20:46:20 --- quit: iyzsong (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 20:51:17 one note about free 20:51:31 there is a cost ? 20:51:39 what it measures w.r.t. RAM space is the RAM space left in the main task's dictionary 20:52:00 also you have to have multitasking compiled for it to be available 20:53:34 oh 20:53:40 well thats ok 20:54:02 you dont have to use it multitasking tho ? 20:54:09 just have it compiled ? 20:54:26 well compiling multitasking turns it on 20:54:37 even if there is only one task 20:56:05 ahh 20:56:08 still ok 21:05:28 oh and btw you don't need to build it like you're doing a release to set the version 21:05:31 just do: 21:05:47 make PLATFORM= VERSION= 21:05:54 cool 21:05:57 it automatically gets the current time and date 21:07:07 nice 21:09:22 if you use utils/build.sh it uses the version you feed it to specify the version for each platform built 21:09:41 ill try it soon 21:54:12 --- join: gravicappa joined #forth 22:11:04 release 0.5.5 is out! 22:11:38 awesome! 22:15:41 it'd been a while since I'd done a release, even a patch-level one 22:16:14 cool I'll just dl 5.5.5 22:16:25 I figured I'd accumulated enough changes that it'd be worth it to do a new release, even if none of the individual changes by itself seemed to deserve a release 22:21:09 --- quit: _whitelogger (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 22:31:05 --- join: _whitelogger joined #forth 22:44:08 okay, I'm gonna head off to bed now 22:44:23 nighto! 22:44:29 g'night 23:16:07 --- quit: WickedShell (Remote host closed the connection) 23:56:56 --- join: dys joined #forth 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/20.05.29