00:00:00 --- log: started forth/20.03.12 00:09:30 Croran, no, but I have some zigbee modules to test with my hardware. I'm not into wifi or bluetooth with small embedded 00:10:41 --- quit: CORDIC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00:10:44 rdrop-exit, g'day, how's the volcano, the conavirus and the humidity today ? 00:11:50 not good, the condo building where my eldest son lives has been quarantined :( 00:13:30 rdrop-exit, in the Philipines ? 00:13:36 yes 00:13:41 oh dear 00:14:43 the only sign of it here is that all the toilet paper in Australia seems to have been sold out in the supermarkets 00:15:38 my wife bought extra, she said they're running out at the grocery 00:15:52 rdrop-exit, I hope he will be ok :) 00:16:47 thank you, apparently a Chinese tenant in the building has been diagnosed with the virus, that's all I know for the moment 00:17:12 they have their phones tho ? 00:17:30 --- quit: dys (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 00:17:41 yes, he has his phone, he called my wife earlier today to let her know 00:19:03 scary shit 00:20:10 As at 11:00 hrs on 12 March 2020, we have 126 confirmed cases of coronavirus (COVID-19), including 3 deaths, in Australia. 00:20:52 don't you go getting it because Zen Forth Gurus are very hard to replace! 00:20:53 my grand-daughter lives in Padova Italy, apperently the whole city is under quarantine 00:21:10 Aye aye sir :) 00:22:16 The case fatality rate in countries and regions outside mainland China is approximately 3.3%. 00:22:58 https://www.health.gov.au/news/health-alerts/novel-coronavirus-2019-ncov-health-alert 00:23:04 thanks! 00:23:59 The majority of new cases are reported from Italy, Iran, and the Republic of Korea. 00:25:37 --- quit: MrMobius (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 00:26:26 --- join: MrMobius joined #forth 00:30:30 --- join: [1]MrMobius joined #forth 00:31:16 --- quit: MrMobius (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 00:31:17 --- nick: [1]MrMobius -> MrMobius 00:46:38 --- quit: dddddd (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 01:26:09 --- join: mtsd joined #forth 01:49:53 --- join: [1]MrMobius joined #forth 01:52:34 --- quit: MrMobius (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 01:52:35 --- nick: [1]MrMobius -> MrMobius 01:55:24 --- quit: WickedShell (Remote host closed the connection) 01:58:57 --- join: xek joined #forth 02:30:51 --- join: jedb_ joined #forth 02:32:39 --- quit: jedb (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 02:53:06 --- join: [1]MrMobius joined #forth 02:55:49 --- quit: MrMobius (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 02:55:50 --- nick: [1]MrMobius -> MrMobius 03:11:20 --- join: [1]MrMobius joined #forth 03:13:14 --- quit: MrMobius (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 03:15:37 --- quit: [1]MrMobius (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 03:16:49 --- join: MrMobius joined #forth 03:38:31 --- join: deep-thought joined #forth 03:44:51 --- quit: rdrop-exit (Quit: Lost terminal) 03:58:04 --- quit: deep-thought (Quit: Leaving) 04:02:29 --- quit: iyzsong (Remote host closed the connection) 04:03:59 --- join: iyzsong joined #forth 04:16:46 --- join: iyzsong- joined #forth 04:17:53 --- quit: iyzsong (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 04:37:50 --- quit: proteus-guy (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 04:45:47 --- join: dddddd joined #forth 04:50:54 --- join: kieselsteini joined #forth 05:06:21 --- quit: kieselsteini (Quit: Palaver https://palaverapp.com) 05:17:31 --- join: [1]MrMobius joined #forth 05:20:14 --- quit: MrMobius (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 05:20:42 --- join: MrMobius joined #forth 05:23:13 --- quit: [1]MrMobius (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 05:35:58 --- join: f-a joined #forth 05:43:49 --- quit: mtsd (Quit: Leaving) 05:52:00 --- quit: f-a (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05:56:35 --- quit: MrMobius (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 05:56:54 --- join: f-a joined #forth 06:00:40 --- join: MrMobius joined #forth 06:11:07 --- quit: f-a (Quit: leaving) 06:12:00 --- quit: iyzsong- (Quit: ZNC 1.7.1 - https://znc.in) 06:39:53 --- quit: dave0 (Quit: dave's not here) 07:04:25 back 07:04:51 hey tabemann 07:05:34 tabemann, I've just added some facilities to my project manager I've been wanting to dod for a while 07:05:36 well, I've got some bugs fixed with the multitasker, but it still won't multitask 07:06:08 project manager? (usually, to me, a project manager is a person) 07:06:34 my system now concatenates all project Forth source files into two files, one has all the comments and the other has no comments for faster uploading 07:07:14 I just rely on e4thcom to strip out the comments at upload time 07:07:16 then it adds them into the directory where it has already placed a copy of the binary in the mcu, and tarballs everything 07:07:55 this is for people wanting to build a project from my tarball if runing the binary isnt enough for them 07:08:08 ah 07:08:36 normally I never see my comments either, theyre stripped before being uploaded to the mcu 07:09:14 what I call my 'project manager' creates everything needed for a new project 07:11:28 I just supply a directory name and about 0.1 second later it contains about 3.9MB across 47 support files and 10 subdirs including a SCM 07:11:43 and everything is pre configured 07:12:26 consider for instance that youve finished a project with Zeptoforth ? 07:12:51 you have all the source for it and you want to distribute the project 07:13:04 what do you do ? 07:13:09 so it's essentially a prepackaged project to be expanded as needed 07:13:51 no, my tarball only contains the binary,the wordlist, and the source in in file 07:14:49 the project is managed by my SCM and I can produce a tarball of the entire project anytime, but there isnt any point distributing that as my system is too different 07:15:13 no one would be able to build the project from it 07:15:59 but with the source they only have to upload it into a standard Mecrisp-Stellaris binary and it will work, how they edit the source, debug etc is up to them 07:16:10 or they can run the binary 07:17:00 basically Ive discovered since 2014 that no forth people want to build my projects the way I do 07:17:11 they all have their own systems and methods 07:17:55 of course in the C world, they think that anyone can build their project simply by giving them a github link 07:18:14 it's a utter mess 07:18:38 they also assume everyone runs Linux and uses git 07:18:53 yep 07:19:04 or has GO installed or any one of a thousand other incorrect assumptions 07:19:40 Lars Brinkhoff makes LBforth and hes quite well known in Forth circles 07:19:43 I can see assuming gcc is installed... but assuming Go is installed? 07:19:51 Ive never been able to compile it 07:20:23 yeah if it's just Gcc then chances are it will be ok, but also depends on libs etc 07:20:36 yeah 07:20:55 okay, have go to cut thing short - gotta get ready for work 07:21:13 yet when I first tried Retro, it compiled in about 1 second and worked perfectly, the sign of a well thought out Forth to me 07:21:14 *go cut 07:21:21 no worries, 07:21:25 zz time here 07:21:30 g'night 07:21:33 at 0121 07:21:36 niht 07:23:21 --- join: f-a joined #forth 07:41:51 --- quit: tabemann (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 07:45:36 --- join: proteus-guy joined #forth 07:47:06 --- quit: MrMobius (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 07:47:41 --- join: MrMobius joined #forth 07:53:06 --- nick: jedb_ -> jedb 08:44:02 --- join: [1]MrMobius joined #forth 08:45:37 --- quit: MrMobius (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 08:47:59 --- join: MrMobius joined #forth 08:49:22 --- quit: [1]MrMobius (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 09:55:17 --- quit: f-a (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 09:56:52 --- join: f-a joined #forth 10:05:39 --- join: kori joined #forth 10:05:39 --- quit: kori (Changing host) 10:05:39 --- join: kori joined #forth 10:57:55 --- join: dys joined #forth 11:16:48 --- quit: kori (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 11:36:43 --- join: [1]MrMobius joined #forth 11:37:07 --- quit: MrMobius (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 11:39:23 --- join: MrMobius joined #forth 11:41:45 --- quit: [1]MrMobius (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 11:55:15 --- quit: gravicappa (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 12:35:08 --- join: X-Scale` joined #forth 12:35:48 --- quit: X-Scale (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 12:35:48 --- nick: X-Scale` -> X-Scale 13:50:33 --- quit: f-a (Quit: leaving) 14:00:54 --- join: WickedShell joined #forth 14:24:08 --- join: [1]MrMobius joined #forth 14:24:40 --- quit: MrMobius (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 14:24:41 --- nick: [1]MrMobius -> MrMobius 14:26:13 --- join: [1]MrMobius joined #forth 14:28:25 --- join: [2]MrMobius joined #forth 14:29:08 --- quit: MrMobius (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 14:31:23 --- quit: [1]MrMobius (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 14:45:22 --- quit: xek (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 15:16:39 --- join: MrMobius joined #forth 15:18:44 --- quit: [2]MrMobius (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 15:23:16 --- join: dave0 joined #forth 16:17:03 --- quit: cheater (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 16:18:17 --- join: cheater joined #forth 17:14:52 --- quit: MrMobius (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 17:21:59 --- join: tabemann joined #forth 17:22:28 --- join: MrMobius joined #forth 17:27:32 --- join: [1]MrMobius joined #forth 17:29:52 --- quit: MrMobius (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 17:29:52 --- nick: [1]MrMobius -> MrMobius 17:35:57 --- quit: cheater (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 17:37:56 --- join: cheater joined #forth 17:47:27 --- join: iyzsong joined #forth 18:12:05 --- quit: tabemann (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 19:10:05 --- join: tabemann joined #forth 19:47:25 --- join: X-Scale` joined #forth 19:47:26 --- quit: X-Scale (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 19:48:09 --- nick: X-Scale` -> X-Scale 19:58:44 --- join: boru` joined #forth 19:58:47 --- quit: boru (Disconnected by services) 19:58:50 --- nick: boru` -> boru 20:09:32 --- quit: WickedShell (Remote host closed the connection) 20:49:00 --- join: jsoft joined #forth 21:05:41 --- quit: MrMobius (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 21:28:56 --- join: gravicappa joined #forth 22:37:34 --- quit: dys (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 23:14:03 --- quit: dddddd (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/20.03.12