00:00:00 --- log: started forth/19.07.17 00:19:27 --- quit: proteusguy (Remote host closed the connection) 00:26:52 --- join: xek (~xek@apn-31-0-23-202.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl) joined #forth 00:38:31 --- join: ryke (~conrad@2600-6c5d-0000-1325-48ca-1f48-1edc-bb6d.dhcp6.chtrptr.net) joined #forth 01:05:29 --- quit: ryke (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 02:41:39 --- quit: jedb (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 02:48:20 --- join: jedb (~jedb@185.128.24.51) joined #forth 03:24:35 --- quit: dave9 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 03:25:37 --- join: karswell (~user@cust125-dsl91-135-5.idnet.net) joined #forth 03:27:54 --- join: dave9 (~dave@069.d.003.ncl.iprimus.net.au) joined #forth 03:49:59 --- quit: jedb (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 03:50:16 --- join: jedb (~jedb@103.254.153.113) joined #forth 03:53:47 --- join: jedb_ (~jedb@103.254.153.113) joined #forth 03:56:00 --- quit: xek (Remote host closed the connection) 03:56:27 --- quit: jedb (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 03:58:33 --- join: xek (~xek@apn-31-0-23-202.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl) joined #forth 04:11:48 --- join: dddddd (~dddddd@unaffiliated/dddddd) joined #forth 04:45:20 --- quit: jedb_ (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 04:47:28 --- join: jedb (~jedb@123.208.27.27) joined #forth 04:50:20 --- join: jedb_ (~jedb@185.128.24.51) joined #forth 04:52:43 --- quit: jedb (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 05:58:45 --- quit: jedb_ (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 05:59:41 --- join: jedb_ (~jedb@185.128.24.51) joined #forth 06:11:14 --- join: dave0 (~dave0@069.d.003.ncl.iprimus.net.au) joined #forth 06:51:37 --- quit: dave0 (Quit: dave's not here) 07:05:49 --- quit: jedb_ (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 07:06:16 --- join: jedb (~jedb@123.208.27.27) joined #forth 07:09:18 --- join: jedb_ (~jedb@103.254.153.113) joined #forth 07:11:56 --- quit: jedb (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 07:27:36 --- quit: tabemann_ (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 07:30:03 --- join: jedb (~jedb@103.254.153.113) joined #forth 07:30:20 --- quit: jedb_ (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 07:58:51 --- join: jedb_ (~jedb@103.254.153.113) joined #forth 07:59:10 --- quit: jedb (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 08:12:15 --- join: dys (~dys@b2b-94-79-136-46.unitymedia.biz) joined #forth 08:14:09 --- quit: jedb_ (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 08:16:01 --- join: jedb (~jedb@103.254.153.113) joined #forth 11:42:55 Hello hello hello 11:43:10 I have MISSED being on a real computer with internet access 11:43:20 have I missed any interesting Forth 11:56:46 --- quit: gravicappa (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 12:27:40 WilhelmVonWeiner: I don't think so. 12:28:34 Hmm, actually there has been some stuff in the last few days. 12:28:48 Might be worth taking a look at the logs. 12:31:35 i think cm came in here and basically solved all software engineering problems ever, but unfortunately he did it in such a way that only those who were here at the time could benefit from it. sorry 12:32:31 I can confirm, all my software engineering problems are solved thanks to that 12:32:39 Also P=NP now and the Collatz conjecture is solved. 12:33:00 gavino finally developed that Forth web browser he spams CLF about then 12:35:25 idk who that is but yes even though he wasn't here at the time he received special treatment 12:37:02 gavino is someone who repeatedly spams the comp.lang.forth mailing list with somewhat sensical posts with topics like " how do you do transaction processing system in forth?" 12:37:37 i love how every language has one of those 12:38:07 lua's was some german guy named stefan who always talked about making a mobile phone OS with lua, or something like that 12:38:14 I think that this person is a full etat troll for at least two languages 12:38:27 he was pretty active in comp.lang.lisp as well 12:41:15 --- quit: jedb (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 12:41:20 comp.lang.forth has gems like "trump2020 end immigration deport more people" 12:41:41 lol 12:43:35 : 2020 ( n) IMMIGRATION HALT PEOPLE TUCK +! @ DEPORT ; probably 12:47:30 --- join: jedb (~jedb@103.254.153.113) joined #forth 12:49:12 There seem to be more right-leaning people in the forth community than in other tech communities. Same with plan9/9front and suckless. I'm not sure what the reason is. 12:49:13 Anyway, I try to stay out of it all as much as possible. 12:49:39 I just try to keep my politics out of silicon 12:51:16 all electrons are indistinguishable after all 12:54:46 it's good to know that they exist, though. usually when politics seep into the software forums i frequent, it's almost exclusively rabid left wing nutcases calling me a sociopath because i don't agree that we should immediately crucify the rich because they're just oh so smug and unfair 12:55:16 at least there is logic in Forth and debates can be healthy and mostly resolved, unlike politics 12:55:31 zy]x[yz: mostly why I try to avoid it 12:56:54 tp, i'm not involved in any forth communities, but in my experience there's a good deal of religion in software, as in all things 12:57:06 zy]x[yz, WilhelmVonWeiner, same here, the rabid left wing nutcases are a plague 12:58:00 zy]x[yz, wouldn't you call this IRC channel a 'community' of sorts ? 12:58:32 yeah but i'm just a troll here 12:58:33 I like to keep politics hermetically sealed out of tech -- more utility, more socially modular, better decisions, and more likeable. If something needs to be changed the only way to fix it is by finding a non-politicized secret side-door. 12:59:33 zy]x[yz, in my experience Forth people are the most independent of all, they do things *their own way* and are extremely creative 13:04:04 pointfree, I try and avoid all politics myself because there is just no end to it, people argue endlessly and get so upset they then have a nice war about it all until everyone is either dead or too worn out to argue any more 13:04:44 the key to politics is that if you just agree with my viewpoints then you'll always be right! 13:05:52 zy]x[yz, no, that's one of my sisters attitudes, no politics involved ... she's always right 13:06:23 what if i am your sister 13:07:09 anyway .. I suggested that Forth may be what a forum poster was looking for the other day and within a few moments the C zealots were attracted to my post like moths to a flame 13:08:38 the poster was getting into microprocessors from a hardware perspective and wanted a way to examine and manipulate registers 13:12:12 the C zealots and I each exchanged one volley of cannon fire and they seem to be silent now after I used my 'interactivity' keyword, but later a Arduino user posted that Forth isn't needed as registers can be examined with his special method of Arduino, timers and a oscilliscope! 13:12:47 what, you got a problem with oscilliscopes? 13:14:08 I love oscilloscopes, but I am biased as Rohde & Schwarz gave me a free mug 13:15:28 I have a few myself but my favourite is my 1994 HP DSO which I bought new for $4600 (demo price) 13:16:11 I also have a Tek 7000 series mainframe that I rarely use 13:17:50 I did have a Rigol DSO but sold it because I just couldn't get used to the controls and menus, finding myself very unproductive with it 13:19:01 i have some old analog 200MHz something made by somebody that i bought a few years ago for $200 off of craig's list 13:19:19 it mostly collects dust 13:19:23 lol, but I dont need a scope to examine a few thousand MCU registers because Forth does that naturally 13:20:11 Im a electronics tech and a scope is vital for electronics work, development, repairs etc 13:20:44 anyway, I'm off to work, bbl! 13:20:48 bye 13:22:05 --- quit: xek (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 14:37:38 --- quit: MrMobius (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 15:36:12 hey 15:54:19 --- join: dave0 (~dave0@069.d.003.ncl.iprimus.net.au) joined #forth 15:58:38 --- join: MrMobius (~default@c-73-134-82-217.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined #forth 16:15:02 --- join: `presiden (~presiden@unaffiliated/matematikaadit) joined #forth 16:23:50 --- quit: dddddd (Remote host closed the connection) 17:01:38 --- quit: john_cephalopoda (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 17:14:10 --- join: john_cephalopoda (~john@unaffiliated/john-cephalopoda/x-6407167) joined #forth 17:25:35 --- join: tabemann_ (~tabemann@rrcs-162-155-170-75.central.biz.rr.com) joined #forth 17:25:57 --- nick: tabemann_ -> tabemann 17:43:23 --- part: tabemann left #forth 17:43:39 good evening 17:43:49 <`presiden> good evening, crc 17:46:34 anything interesting happening? 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