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01:58:17 <WilhelmVonWeiner> proteusguy: sometimes I write a test file, yeah.
01:58:32 <WilhelmVonWeiner> when I've used Lina Forth and it's linux syscall interface I do
01:58:49 <WilhelmVonWeiner> because checking against return codes and such is helpful
02:00:00 <WilhelmVonWeiner> since it's Friday, maybe I'll blow off all my work obligations and write that socket library I've needed
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07:03:40 <WilhelmVonWeiner> ended up trying to decode some Chinese guy's Python
07:03:42 <WilhelmVonWeiner> jesus.
07:03:59 <WilhelmVonWeiner> Other people's code sucks!
08:27:32 <WilhelmVonWeiner> Trying to write an OO Forth-like with syntax insipred by this esolang called Glass
08:28:05 <WilhelmVonWeiner> { <Name> <arguments> | <function body> } 
08:28:14 <dave0> WilhelmVonWeiner: it helps if the comments are in english :-)
08:28:49 <WilhelmVonWeiner> where <arguments> has : prefixed arguments for the object's variables which are auto-populated
08:29:10 <WilhelmVonWeiner> Just an excuse to write a parser basically.
08:29:58 <zy]x[yz> dave0, depends on what the comments say.  i've found myself in situations before where, in hind-sight, i would have been so much better off if i had never read the comment
08:30:50 <dave0> lol
08:31:03 <WilhelmVonWeiner> { Fish :x :y | self } creates a Fish with empty :x and :y vars. { Fish:New x y | y x Fish } creates a fish object with x y as :x :y
08:31:43 <WilhelmVonWeiner> { Fish:Move dx dy | :y dy @ + :x dx @ + Fish } changes x y by the deltas etc etc
08:50:54 <proteusguy> I attended a PyCon in Dallas in 2007 I think. The keynote was talking about the concept of programs as literature. One of his main issues is why people can't write code in their own native language. I was thinking, well of course they absolutely could with forth. :-) But not in Thai since Thai doesn't put spaces between words.... haha
08:52:10 <WilhelmVonWeiner> you could make it so words are parsed backwards lol
08:52:23 <WilhelmVonWeiner> : ThisIsAWordThatDoesThing ;
08:52:28 <WilhelmVonWeiner> the undefined part is This
08:52:44 <WilhelmVonWeiner> so, it's a new subroutine
08:52:52 <WilhelmVonWeiner> : ThisThatTheOther ;
08:52:54 <WilhelmVonWeiner> kekeke
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09:17:31 <proteusguy> It's all fine and dandy until you hit proper nouns and there's no telling where they begin and end!
09:19:11 <zy]x[yz> seems like the guy is asking the wrong question
09:20:27 <zy]x[yz> native languages are horrible; they're ambiguous and inconsistent.  unless your native language is lojban, it shouldn't be your goal to write software in your native language
09:21:47 <proteusguy> well he meant native script I should say - like chinese characters rather than roman.
09:22:40 <proteusguy> "dup" and "if" have no native meaning in Chinese. But there are characters one could use instead and forth would make that quite simple to support.
09:24:18 <proteusguy> of course no one should code in a human syntax/semantic language which is, as you say, far too ambiguous and inconsistent.
09:26:48 <zy]x[yz> oh.  that answer is easy: because everybody speaks english
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09:38:17 <Zarutian> zy]x[yz: naah, not all speak english as ya rekon it, mate.
09:40:11 <zy]x[yz> that's their problem
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17:39:35 <rdrop-exit> c[_]
17:40:28 <rdrop-exit> Good morning Forthers
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18:31:34 <dave0> hi
18:44:34 <rdrop-exit> hi dave0 :)
18:45:49 <dave0> hi rdrop-exit 
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20:16:47 <rdrop-exit> https://youtu.be/aW2LvQUcwqc
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23:23:18 <proteusguy> haha that's impressive!
23:24:06 <proteusguy> hydrocopic marzelveins!
23:30:50 <rdrop-exit> ;-))
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