00:00:00 --- log: started forth/19.05.07 01:30:50 --- quit: jn__ (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 01:31:40 --- join: jn__ (~nope@aftr-109-90-233-200.unity-media.net) joined #forth 01:33:26 --- nick: Keshl_ -> Keshl 02:43:17 --- join: smokeink (~smokeink@118.131.144.140) joined #forth 03:35:04 --- quit: smokeink (Remote host closed the connection) 03:35:25 --- join: smokeink (~smokeink@118.131.144.140) joined #forth 03:37:23 hello forth 03:38:12 every day I see FIFOs as worthy competitors to LIFOs 03:38:40 a FIFO where the two front items are in registers and can be manipulated in-place 04:13:04 --- join: Deep-Thought (~photon@1.132.111.209) joined #forth 04:42:05 --- quit: proteusguy (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 04:45:37 --- quit: Deep-Thought (Quit: Leaving) 05:26:38 --- quit: Zarutian (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05:26:44 --- join: Zarutian_2 (~zarutian@173-133-17-89.fiber.hringdu.is) joined #forth 05:27:23 --- nick: Zarutian_2 -> Zarutian 05:38:52 --- join: CORDIC (~user@178-222-26-80.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs) joined #forth 05:39:41 --- quit: DKordic (Remote host closed the connection) 06:35:29 --- quit: smokeink (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 06:44:56 --- join: X-Scale (~ARM@110.24.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt) joined #forth 06:59:30 --- quit: dave0 (Quit: dave's not here) 07:29:49 --- quit: tabemann (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 07:33:48 --- join: X-Scale` (~ARM@59.14.158.5.rev.vodafone.pt) joined #forth 07:33:53 --- quit: X-Scale (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 07:34:17 --- nick: X-Scale` -> X-Scale 07:43:11 --- join: X-Scale` (~ARM@83.45.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt) joined #forth 07:44:36 --- quit: X-Scale (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 07:44:36 --- nick: X-Scale` -> X-Scale 07:55:35 I guess I just want a word that sends an item to the bottom of the stack lol. 08:22:55 do people here have an opinion on mecrisp-stellaris forth? 08:23:34 i'm trying it out as my first forth and it seems pretty decent 08:23:55 i've tried it on some msp430 fram boards, a cortex-m3 and a cortex-m0 08:24:12 is this as good as forth gets on an mcu? 08:25:50 --- quit: Zarutian (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08:26:15 --- join: Zarutian (~zarutian@173-133-17-89.fiber.hringdu.is) joined #forth 08:34:16 WilhelmVonWeiner: something like: 08:34:18 :bury 08:48:33 o/ WilhelmVonWeiner 08:48:33 Rickta59: mecrisp-stellaris has a lot of hardware support (both platforms and drivers written in straight forth). It's fast due to the register allocator optimizations. Matthias Koch is a very hands-on maintainer and mecrisp-stellaris is likely to be an active project for the foreseeable future. 08:48:33 mecrisp-stellaris occupies more flash than other embedded forths. I have some preference for the front-end look and feel of cforth http://quozl.us.netrek.org/cforth-milo-champions-band/ that I can't quite put into words. cforth can make use of existing C libraries and drivers which I think is pragmatic and doesn't really hurt the user experience ( I don't want to write a USB-C driver ). 08:52:03 smaller, less mature forths such as https://bitbucket.org/cbiffle/m3forth/wiki/Home or https://github.com/ekoeppen/CoreForth may be more hackable, yet I still find myself using gforth and mecrisp-stellaris a lot. 08:52:56 crc: yes 08:53:37 but I would name it _ or something 08:53:50 since I would hopefull use it a lot 09:03:23 I have `_` defined as `: _ d> drop ;` ...kinda like in Haskell. 09:10:26 thanks pointfree 09:10:46 it seemed like on msp430 it produced better native code 09:11:15 * actually i was only looking at the dissamble from msp430 and m0 09:22:26 --- join: john_metcalf (~digital_w@host86-174-123-97.range86-174.btcentralplus.com) joined #forth 10:01:32 --- join: dys (~dys@tmo-122-190.customers.d1-online.com) joined #forth 10:42:48 see I would have regular stack operations and then FIFO versions 10:43:14 so + and +> or +F for FIFO 11:44:01 --- quit: gravicappa (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 11:51:34 --- join: PoppaVic (~PoppaVic@unaffiliated/poppavic) joined #forth 14:38:02 --- quit: clog (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 14:38:02 --- log: stopped forth/19.05.07 14:38:09 --- log: started forth/19.05.07 14:38:09 --- join: clog (~nef@bespin.org) joined #forth 14:38:09 --- topic: 'Forth Programming | logged by clog at http://bit.ly/91toWN | If you have two (or more) stacks and speak RPN then you're welcome here! | https://github.com/mark4th' 14:38:09 --- topic: set by proteusguy!~proteus-g@cm-134-196-84-89.revip18.asianet.co.th on [Sun Mar 18 08:48:16 2018] 14:38:09 --- names: list (clog PoppaVic dys john_metcalf Zarutian X-Scale CORDIC jn__ dddddd pierpal zy]x[yz reepca john_cephalopoda lchvdlch diginet2 chunkypuffs Keshl amuck nighty Croran djinni jedb dave42 pointfree ovf catern nonlinear jimt[m]1 alexshpilkin a3f moony ullbeking pareidolia arrdem__ Rickta59 rann bb010g mstevens +KipIngram the_cuckoo MrMobius rain1 APic phadthai WilhelmVonWeiner cheater gabc presiden Lord_Nightmare vxe yunfan jhei siraben nerfur rprimus koisoke lonjil) 14:38:09 --- names: list (dne bluekelp irsol malyn jackdaniel rpcope- C-Keen dzho +crc Kumool ttmrichter) 14:53:12 --- join: smokeink (~smokeink@118.131.144.140) joined #forth 15:33:18 --- join: dave0 (~dave0@069.d.003.ncl.iprimus.net.au) joined #forth 15:34:01 hi 15:45:17 hi 15:48:47 hi rain1 16:07:46 --- quit: chunkypuffs (Quit: ZNC 1.7.1 - https://znc.in) 16:10:17 --- join: rdrop-exit (~markwilli@112.201.166.63) joined #forth 16:13:28 --- join: chunkypuffs (~chunkypuf@2a01:4f9:2b:16d5::1) joined #forth 16:20:48 c[_] Good morning Forthists 16:23:02 hi rdrop-exit 16:23:10 hi dave0 16:47:16 --- join: grewal (~aman@70.23.200.13) joined #forth 16:51:13 --- quit: john_cephalopoda (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 17:04:53 --- join: john_cephalopoda (~john@unaffiliated/john-cephalopoda/x-6407167) joined #forth 17:30:59 --- join: travisb (~travisb@h193.235.138.40.static.ip.windstream.net) joined #forth 17:42:23 --- quit: dddddd (Remote host closed the connection) 18:03:45 --- quit: travisb (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 18:31:47 --- quit: john_metcalf (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 18:41:56 --- quit: PoppaVic (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 18:54:27 --- join: PoppaVic (~PoppaVic@unaffiliated/poppavic) joined #forth 19:21:25 --- quit: dave0 (Quit: dave's not here) 19:41:51 --- join: travisb (~travisb@172-13-49-137.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) joined #forth 20:21:02 --- quit: rdrop-exit (Quit: leaving) 20:58:46 --- join: gravicappa (~gravicapp@h109-187-242-147.dyn.bashtel.ru) joined #forth 21:15:25 --- join: rdrop-exit (~markwilli@112.201.166.63) joined #forth 22:33:18 --- quit: pierpal (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 23:36:47 --- join: proteusguy (~proteusgu@mx-ll-183.89.213-239.dynamic.3bb.co.th) joined #forth 23:36:47 --- mode: ChanServ set +v proteusguy 23:47:54 --- quit: dys (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/19.05.07