00:00:00 --- log: started forth/19.04.08 00:15:00 --- quit: dys (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 00:19:04 --- join: dddddd (~dddddd@unaffiliated/dddddd) joined #forth 00:59:13 --- quit: yunfan (Quit: already be with hell) 01:00:23 --- join: yunfan (~roooot@unaffiliated/yunfan) joined #forth 02:03:49 --- quit: ashirase (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 02:06:58 --- join: ashirase (~ashirase@modemcable098.166-22-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined #forth 03:13:41 --- quit: dave0 (Quit: dave's not here) 05:02:46 --- join: dave0 (~dave0@108.060.dsl.syd.iprimus.net.au) joined #forth 05:04:05 hi 05:10:33 hi dave0 05:12:29 hi rdrop-exit 05:41:05 --- quit: proteusguy (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 06:11:45 --- join: proteusguy (~proteusgu@cm-58-10-208-131.revip7.asianet.co.th) joined #forth 06:11:45 --- mode: ChanServ set +v proteusguy 06:16:51 --- quit: dave0 (Quit: dave's not here) 07:20:42 --- quit: tabemann (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 07:31:38 --- nick: dzho -> deejoe 07:31:47 --- nick: deejoe -> dzho 07:41:38 --- quit: lchvdlch (Changing host) 07:41:38 --- join: lchvdlch (~nestr0@pdpc/supporter/active/lchvdlch) joined #forth 08:22:01 --- quit: rdrop-exit (Quit: Lost terminal) 09:45:17 --- quit: proteusguy (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 09:57:17 --- join: proteusguy (~proteusgu@cm-58-10-208-131.revip7.asianet.co.th) joined #forth 09:57:17 --- mode: ChanServ set +v proteusguy 11:01:16 --- quit: gravicappa (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 11:01:38 --- join: ErnestoNefasto (~quassel@92.57.58.87) joined #forth 11:03:29 --- quit: ErnestoNefasto (Quit: .) 11:05:43 --- join: cnidario (~aaa@92.57.58.87) joined #forth 11:08:22 hello, any doing firmware-like things? how do you usually test your firmware? how should i test my firmware against external services? 11:10:02 huh? 11:12:13 think about a device communicating with a REST service via wifi chip 11:12:54 i would test it with a REST client over wifi 11:12:56 I have no fucking idea what a "REST service" means, let alone a "wifi chip" - I code and make shit work 11:13:15 REST means web 11:13:19 ah 11:13:28 webshit/heads - ok 11:13:44 "Let's overcomplicate the issue" 11:15:01 zy]x[yz: What ever happened to "I need to speak HTML"? ;-) 11:15:24 what? 11:15:59 np, I kid - I ain't written CGI or html in... a decade? heh - it's a non-issue 11:16:47 i meant "what" in the "i don't understand what it is you're saying to me" sense 11:17:34 zy]x[yz: I know, hence the reply: REST means web - was my trigger 11:17:57 Why would Forth care? 11:18:04 Why would C care? 11:18:10 Why would ASM care? 11:20:30 well if he's asking for workflow pointers, this probably isn't a bad place, but the way his question is formed right now is so open-ended 11:20:52 * PoppaVic chortles 11:29:00 --- join: gravicappa (~gravicapp@h109-187-18-29.dyn.bashtel.ru) joined #forth 11:35:53 --- quit: proteusguy (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 11:58:24 --- join: mtsd (~mtsd@94-137-100-130.customers.ownit.se) joined #forth 12:02:34 --- quit: gravicappa (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 12:24:55 well, i was wondering if there is something like an automation framework for making iot device testing, like faking rest calls, simulating connection drops etc in an semiautomated way 12:27:06 I know its a very vague question... I employed an entire day trying to faking a rest service with low level python sockets, I probably want also to simulate wifi drops and things like that.. just wondering if someone did this before or how other people approach to this problem 12:30:39 I am never sure wtf this "Framework" shit means. 12:33:48 call it a collection of things that help you do things, like a forth vocabulary 12:38:33 well, then write one - because no one knows what you want except you 12:39:25 thank you! suppa constructive & positive stand! /s 12:39:57 you got what you paid for 12:46:40 --- join: pierpal (~pierpal@host197-221-static.34-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) joined #forth 13:02:11 --- quit: mtsd (Quit: leaving) 13:25:38 --- join: dys (~dys@tmo-109-114.customers.d1-online.com) joined #forth 13:40:53 cnidario: Forth is great for metaphoric testing. 13:41:44 cnidario: https://www.hillelwayne.com/post/metamorphic-testing/ 13:54:05 thank you, interesting idea, i've read about it the past week, though it doesn't quite adjust to my use case... but it's interesting 13:54:17 --- quit: cnidario (Remote host closed the connection) 13:56:21 ...but its lack of adoption with non-interactive languages in embedded applications is understandable. If your test suite is separated from the application code by a jtag or you only have the terminal inputs and outputs of the compiled program you're probably only going to pass/fail on input/output string literals because you don't have the application code handy to write a more abstract test. 14:00:39 --- quit: Krenium (Read error: No route to host) 14:00:49 --- join: Krenium (Krenium@63.142.121.42) joined #forth 14:49:38 --- quit: pierpal (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 14:54:57 --- quit: dne (Remote host closed the connection) 15:24:59 --- quit: cheater (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 15:32:33 --- join: cheater (~cheater@unaffiliated/cheater) joined #forth 15:44:15 --- join: dave0 (~dave0@108.060.dsl.syd.iprimus.net.au) joined #forth 15:46:45 hi 16:01:05 --- quit: cheater (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 16:03:07 --- join: cheater (~cheater@unaffiliated/cheater) joined #forth 16:15:04 --- quit: rain1 (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 16:19:37 --- join: rain1 (~My_user_n@unaffiliated/rain1) joined #forth 16:35:04 --- quit: john_cephalopoda (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 16:48:36 --- join: john_cephalopoda (~john@unaffiliated/john-cephalopoda/x-6407167) joined #forth 16:59:34 --- join: tabemann (~tabemann@rrcs-162-155-170-75.central.biz.rr.com) joined #forth 17:06:40 YIL I learned that the Dull, Scotland; Boring, Oregon; and Bland, New South Wales formed the League of Extraordinary Communities 18:10:39 --- quit: tabemann (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 18:38:30 --- quit: dddddd (Remote host closed the connection) 19:40:14 --- join: tabemann (~tabemann@2600:1700:7990:24e0:e9cf:9aca:5cdd:e5ee) joined #forth 20:45:09 --- join: gravicappa (~gravicapp@h109-187-18-29.dyn.bashtel.ru) joined #forth 20:54:30 I added autocomplete to hashforth! 20:56:11 --- part: Krenium left #forth 23:11:12 --- join: proteusguy (~proteusgu@mx-ll-14.207.170-46.dynamic.3bb.co.th) joined #forth 23:11:12 --- mode: ChanServ set +v proteusguy 23:15:58 --- quit: proteusguy (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 23:48:11 --- join: dne_ (~dne@jaune.mayonnaise.net) joined #forth 23:50:46 --- nick: dne_ -> dne 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/19.04.08