00:00:00 --- log: started forth/19.03.19 01:15:23 --- quit: pareidolia (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 01:39:28 --- join: dave0 (~dave0@223.072.dsl.syd.iprimus.net.au) joined #forth 01:40:52 re 01:41:30 <`presiden> ve 01:46:11 hi `presiden 01:47:22 --- join: dddddd (~dddddd@unaffiliated/dddddd) joined #forth 02:03:26 <`presiden> hi dave0 02:03:37 --- quit: ashirase (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 02:07:03 --- join: ashirase (~ashirase@modemcable098.166-22-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined #forth 02:16:17 --- join: xek (~xek@apn-31-0-23-82.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl) joined #forth 03:45:45 --- join: pareidolia (~pareidoli@87.213.124.143) joined #forth 04:49:39 --- quit: C_Keen (Changing host) 04:49:39 --- join: C_Keen (cckeen@k4cg/C-Keen) joined #forth 04:49:56 --- nick: C_Keen -> C-Keen 06:32:03 --- quit: dave0 (Quit: dave's not here) 06:48:45 --- quit: tabemann (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 07:17:38 --- join: xek_ (~xek@apn-31-0-23-83.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl) joined #forth 07:19:46 --- quit: xek (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 07:37:17 --- quit: X-Scale (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 07:50:06 --- quit: chunkypuffs (Quit: ZNC 1.7.1 - https://znc.in) 07:51:14 --- join: chunkypuffs (~chunkypuf@2a01:4f9:2b:16d5::1) joined #forth 08:00:45 --- join: X-Scale (~ARM@95.26.43.5.rev.vodafone.pt) joined #forth 08:53:11 --- quit: nighty- (Remote host closed the connection) 09:52:45 --- quit: dddddd (Remote host closed the connection) 10:37:32 --- join: X-Scale` (~ARM@95.26.43.5.rev.vodafone.pt) joined #forth 10:39:14 --- quit: X-Scale (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 10:39:16 --- nick: X-Scale` -> X-Scale 12:43:43 --- quit: gravicappa (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 12:56:01 good afternoon 12:56:34 howdy 13:03:01 * crc works on documentation 13:28:44 --- join: dddddd (~dddddd@unaffiliated/dddddd) joined #forth 13:30:36 yay, documentation 13:38:13 it's the area that always lags behind :) 13:43:07 I'm finally making headway on it though. My current draft is at http://forth.works/book.html ( or text at http://forth.works/book.txt ) 13:47:20 --- quit: rprimus (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 13:49:15 --- join: rprimus (~micro@unaffiliated/micro) joined #forth 14:11:36 --- quit: xek_ (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 14:13:50 --- quit: dgi (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 14:37:56 crc: looks nice! how accessible is the forth source in an executable compiled with retro-compiler ? 14:38:08 --- quit: FatalNIX (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in) 14:44:30 crc: those docs look great :) 14:48:36 the prefix approach is also very nice - i use the same in my video processing extension and was considering using it in the core itself - opted not to for now, but i may revisit (various people asking about namespaces - i form a flat one from the selected vocabs, but clashes can be problematic and hard to avoid) 14:55:43 one missing thing - no reference to the repo? 15:01:45 --- join: pierpal (~pierpal@host161-197-dynamic.245-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined #forth 15:07:09 Croran: it's compiled, but the image is subroutine threaded with some inlining. disassessmbly is possible, and decompilation could be achieved wdth patience and a bit of time 15:07:37 the_cuckoo: I'll add that 15:08:46 cheers - happy to give it a crack here 15:18:11 --- join: dave0 (~dave0@223.072.dsl.syd.iprimus.net.au) joined #forth 15:20:37 hi 15:24:13 hey dave0 15:24:21 hi the_cuckoo 15:24:43 how goes it? 15:24:58 good, i've got coffee! C4[_]~ C8[_]~ C3[_]~ C2[_]~ 15:25:16 :) 15:25:28 i gave that up (mostly) and switched to tea 15:25:51 well, early grey - i call it 'tea' cos it's the only one worth drinking 15:27:48 yeah it's a nice flavour 15:28:29 hae you tried lady grey? it's not the same 15:41:40 yeah - kinda like it 15:41:58 but it removes the picard affectation which isn't good 15:42:29 lol yes picard! 15:43:09 the actor patrick stewart is looking old now 15:45:11 hmm actually he's not that bad 15:45:19 according to wikipedia he's 78 ! 15:47:07 wow he was knighted 15:47:23 i wonder if that's wikipedia spin ;^) 15:47:35 nope 15:47:58 he defeted the borg, of course he was k-nighted. 15:48:05 damn right 15:48:44 sir captain picard 15:49:22 very starfleetish 16:26:36 :) 16:27:53 kirk is better 16:27:57 fight me 16:30:29 i'm prepared to defend my position with evidence https://youtu.be/12tMVK42yQg 16:31:47 the_cuckoo: I've added a section on obtaining retro, including the repository 16:32:31 zy]x[yz: add this to your evidence too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZWaWrvJ7nA 16:39:34 nice 16:45:44 yeah, but i'm too old to be kirk - your time will come young men 16:46:08 and anyway, no earl grey - deal breaker 16:46:45 and i'm not so sure i'm really into green alien women now i come to think of it 16:53:28 crc: excellent - will give it a try tomorrow :) 16:53:46 nite all 16:53:59 goodnight 16:55:06 --- join: nighty- (~nighty@b157153.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) joined #forth 17:15:19 <`presiden> good night 17:16:41 Hah - ALL of my buddies and me wanted to be Kirk in junior high. 17:16:51 Kirk always won and always got the girl. 17:17:09 Yes, I could deal with the green alien woman. 17:17:25 Don't forget that there were chemical effects in play there. 17:17:50 So you wouldn't feel the same way about one when she was standing two feet from you as you would when she's not around. 17:23:59 As far as I could tell when one was that close to you she came off as pretty much the most amazing woman ever to exist. 17:24:34 To the point where ultimately she wound up running *you*, instead of the other way around. 17:24:40 That was all brought out in Enterprise. 17:27:02 <`presiden> someone just posted this, https://github.com/howerj/forth-cpu 17:27:39 <`presiden> also, the demo, https://howerj.github.io/h2/107.mp4 17:33:06 Oh, neat. 17:33:12 I'll have to take a peek at that. 17:33:36 I got fairly far along that path. 17:33:52 --- quit: john_cephalopoda (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 17:34:12 I had 32 opcodes all laid out that did a really good job of directly manipulating the logic of a hardware stack, with pretty much no decoding. 17:34:26 I probably have it noted down somewhere. 17:34:48 Generally speaking your "encoding" is arbitrary - you can design logic to make any encoding work. 17:34:57 But a SMART encoding can reduct that logic. 17:35:03 reduce 17:35:24 I was doing a hardware stack (of whatever size you wanted to make it, though). 17:35:43 The down side was on power - every time the stack moved EVERY REGISTER IN IT had to move. 17:35:59 The registers were committed to their depth position. 17:38:22 --- join: [1]MrMobius (~default@c-73-134-82-217.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined #forth 17:41:25 --- quit: MrMobius (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 17:41:25 --- nick: [1]MrMobius -> MrMobius 17:46:38 I've just never managed to get on the Verilog bandwagon. 17:46:47 --- join: john_cephalopoda (~john@unaffiliated/john-cephalopoda/x-6407167) joined #forth 17:46:54 My brain still works with gates / flip flops / registers in schematics. 17:47:43 Pathological problems like reconvergent fanout and so on are so much easier to see. 17:48:09 You can realize they're there before you actually become fully conscious of the details. 17:48:21 Something just "looks wrong." 17:48:31 I don't know how to do that with VHDL. 17:48:37 I mean Verilog, but VHDL too. 18:40:11 --- quit: dddddd (Remote host closed the connection) 18:41:32 --- quit: dave0 (Quit: dave's not here) 20:48:41 --- quit: pierpal (Quit: Poof) 20:49:00 --- join: pierpal (~pierpal@host161-197-dynamic.245-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined #forth 21:03:35 --- join: gravicappa (~gravicapp@h109-187-202-26.dyn.bashtel.ru) joined #forth 21:52:53 --- quit: dave9 (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 23:49:44 --- join: dave9 (~dave@223.072.dsl.syd.iprimus.net.au) joined #forth 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/19.03.19