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10:28:30 <WilhelmVonWeiner> morning Forth
10:28:36 <PoppaVic> So.. mulling over the VM last night..
10:28:57 <PoppaVic> (btw, the roads are just this side of a nightmare - horrific, maybe)
10:29:50 <PoppaVic> I wasn't going to expose any "registers", but I kept worrying about goddamned FLASH vs RAM vs EEPROM (vs External) memory.. It's not always linear.
10:30:40 <PoppaVic> then it slapped my face with a dead fish: just rig imaginary ram "registers" and use gcc-like offsets/magic numbers.
10:31:06 <PoppaVic> Either solution works, but the former has the advantage of being something obvious.
10:33:19 <PoppaVic> I think that allows for something like "flash mmap ! @ execute" 
10:34:06 <PoppaVic> Otherwise, the only sane solution is to use a WIDE address and use the unused address-range to specify Flash vs Ram vs EEPROM (vs external)
10:34:25 <PoppaVic> I could be wrong - lemme' know.
10:35:52 <zy]x[yz> well this is like the 0-as-a-valid-address debate.  if mmap is a special address, it means you're burning that address to never be used for general purposes
10:36:43 <zy]x[yz> i'd probably prefer that over all addresses being two-cell values though
10:37:18 <PoppaVic> I don't mind all-addresses-as-cells, though
10:37:35 <PoppaVic> I just want it CLEAR - unlike the avr stuff I was ready to scream at
10:37:47 <zy]x[yz> how wide is a cell?
10:38:21 <PoppaVic> I'm going to default to 32bit. 16bit is possible and 64bit is insane as a double would haul in bignum libs for 128bit
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10:39:21 <zy]x[yz> so it comes down to whether you want to limit the 16-bit systems to less than 16k addressable flash
10:39:40 <PoppaVic> And yes, if you are emulating or VM-on-mcu, any mapped "register" I add is a byte or more less for the app
10:40:18 <PoppaVic> well, it's not a huge issue: since we already have 64 tokens and we know we need that core in protected flash.
10:40:42 <PoppaVic> So, any user-code that thinks it's accessing that area can think again.
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16:25:46 <dave0> hi
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17:26:40 <KipIngram> Hi dave0.
17:28:17 <dave0> hi KipIngram 
17:28:27 <dave0> how's it going?
17:28:46 <KipIngram> Pretty good.
17:29:33 <dave0> true true
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17:32:04 <tabemann> hey guys
17:32:12 <KipIngram> Hi tabemann.
17:32:42 <dave0> hi tabemann 
17:32:49 <dave0> brb gotta do laundry
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