00:00:00 --- log: started forth/18.10.13 00:01:43 --- join: wa5qjh (~quassel@110.54.172.124) joined #forth 00:01:43 --- quit: wa5qjh (Changing host) 00:01:43 --- join: wa5qjh (~quassel@freebsd/user/wa5qjh) joined #forth 00:01:43 --- quit: leaverite (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00:02:22 --- quit: wa5qjh (Remote host closed the connection) 00:03:35 --- join: wa5qjh (~quassel@110.54.172.124) joined #forth 00:03:35 --- quit: wa5qjh (Changing host) 00:03:35 --- join: wa5qjh (~quassel@freebsd/user/wa5qjh) joined #forth 01:25:16 --- quit: wa5qjh (Remote host closed the connection) 02:03:55 --- quit: ashirase (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 02:06:58 --- join: ashirase (~ashirase@modemcable098.166-22-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined #forth 03:49:47 --- join: dys (~dys@tmo-110-211.customers.d1-online.com) joined #forth 04:14:12 --- quit: smokeink (Remote host closed the connection) 04:14:33 --- join: smokeink (~smokeink@li1858-246.members.linode.com) joined #forth 05:52:45 --- join: [X-Scale] (~ARM@43.212.137.78.rev.vodafone.pt) joined #forth 05:53:12 --- quit: X-Scale (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 05:53:13 --- nick: [X-Scale] -> X-Scale 06:48:49 --- quit: smokeink (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 07:07:40 --- join: kumool (~kumool@adsl-64-237-233-141.prtc.net) joined #forth 07:45:53 --- join: ncv (~neceve@2a02:c7d:c5c9:a900:6eaf:6ef7:3b81:d5f6) joined #forth 07:45:56 --- quit: ncv (Changing host) 07:45:56 --- join: ncv (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #forth 08:18:36 --- join: unrznbl[m]1 (unrznblmat@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-bhoohnxiqhmdyffq) joined #forth 08:20:27 --- quit: kumool (Quit: Leaving) 08:21:38 --- quit: unrznbl[m] (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 08:35:00 --- quit: dys (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 08:38:35 --- join: dys (~dys@tmo-102-222.customers.d1-online.com) joined #forth 08:55:46 --- quit: dys (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 08:57:27 --- join: dys (~dys@tmo-080-71.customers.d1-online.com) joined #forth 09:33:03 --- join: [1]MrMobius (~default@c-73-134-82-217.hsd1.va.comcast.net) joined #forth 09:35:53 --- quit: MrMobius (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 09:35:53 --- nick: [1]MrMobius -> MrMobius 10:39:33 --- quit: dave9 (Quit: dave's not here) 10:46:46 --- quit: ashirase (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in) 10:54:15 --- join: ashirase (~ashirase@modemcable098.166-22-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined #forth 11:45:53 --- quit: ashirase (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 11:53:49 --- join: ashirase (~ashirase@modemcable098.166-22-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined #forth 12:08:41 --- quit: ashirase (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 12:10:59 --- join: ashirase (~ashirase@modemcable098.166-22-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined #forth 12:24:58 --- join: dddddd (~dddddd@unaffiliated/dddddd) joined #forth 12:42:26 --- quit: ncv (Remote host closed the connection) 12:50:50 --- quit: ashirase (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 13:00:20 --- join: [X-Scale] (~ARM@33.121.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt) joined #forth 13:02:08 --- quit: X-Scale (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 13:02:09 --- nick: [X-Scale] -> X-Scale 13:55:43 --- join: ashirase (~ashirase@modemcable098.166-22-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined #forth 14:04:25 --- quit: ashirase (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 14:05:28 --- join: ashirase (~ashirase@modemcable098.166-22-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined #forth 14:42:55 --- quit: ashirase (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 14:45:35 --- join: ashirase (~ashirase@modemcable098.166-22-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined #forth 15:06:46 --- quit: ashirase (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 15:15:21 --- quit: reepca (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15:15:45 --- join: reepca (~user@208.89.170.250) joined #forth 16:08:45 agh, I remember reading a presentation thingy that talked about how the hot code was getting hotter and the cold code was getting colder and compiler optimization isn't good enough anymore and it mentioned a dialogue between programmer and computer and ended with a quote from knuth but I can't seem to find it online 16:08:54 anyone remember it or have a link? 16:50:12 I have no idea which presentation you are talking about. Was this something from the Mill Computing group. 16:51:04 funnily enough right as you said that I finally found it looking through my history: https://cr.yp.to/talks/2015.04.16/slides-djb-20150416-a4.pdf 16:52:13 --- join: ashirase (~ashirase@modemcable098.166-22-96.mc.videotron.ca) joined #forth 17:37:24 --- join: smokeink (~smokeink@li1858-246.members.linode.com) joined #forth 18:09:35 --- quit: dddddd (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18:32:46 Wow, that's hard to read. 18:32:58 Because it's got the slide evolutions "unfolded" in the content. 18:33:32 The Internet connection here at the hotel is so bad 18:33:52 that we went down to the car and grabbed one of our serial dialup modems and a USB to rs232 adaptor 18:33:58 we're hooking it up now 18:34:16 I wonder if they will get mad at us lol 18:34:38 Wow - fun. :-) 18:35:08 I forgot to bring a phone cord 18:35:12 so i gotta unplug the phone 18:35:19 I'm pretty sure this phone system is not legally connected 18:35:26 because the PBX requires you to dial 9 to dial 911 18:36:03 i'm pretty sure it's a federal regulation for all 911 capable lines to allow 911 for public service points I thought 18:36:15 I think that's right. 18:51:32 How do we feel about whether or not vocabulary words should be immediate? 18:51:32 --- join: [X-Scale] (~ARM@33.121.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt) joined #forth 18:51:38 I'm leaning toward "they should." 18:52:17 Typically you use a vocabulary word because you want to compile a word from that vocabulary *now*. 18:52:36 I guess, though, the case could be made that you should establish that context prior to compilation beginning. 18:53:43 --- quit: X-Scale (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 18:53:43 --- nick: [X-Scale] -> X-Scale 19:42:38 --- quit: proteus-guy (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 19:48:39 --- join: proteus-guy (~proteusgu@2403:6200:88a6:329f:40fe:ae47:9363:b0ad) joined #forth 20:57:20 --- quit: dys (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 21:33:45 --- join: smokeink2 (ac69ccf6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.172.105.204.246) joined #forth 21:48:52 how to deal with unions inside :struct ;struct in win32forth ? 21:56:44 --- quit: smokeink2 (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client) 22:38:40 or with structs within structs 23:10:21 --- join: smokeink2 (ac69ccf6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.172.105.204.246) joined #forth 23:39:38 --- join: dys (~dys@tmo-120-170.customers.d1-online.com) joined #forth 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/18.10.13