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(~pierpal@host23-9-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined #forth 08:59:04 --- join: kaa (~kaa@98.142.140.231.16clouds.com) joined #forth 09:13:56 --- quit: kaa (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 09:18:56 --- join: ncv__ (~neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #forth 09:21:24 --- quit: ncv_ (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 09:40:20 --- join: yuiop (9f7f20fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.159.127.32.254) joined #forth 09:42:02 I have some "newbie" questions. How do you remove words that are added to the dictionary? I found several sources saying use 'forget' but it appears my distribution doesn't have it. Also, how do you list the code for defined words? Last, and not sure if this is possible - can you list only the words that have been added - not the base words of the system? 09:42:17 The system I am using is SwiftForth evaluation edition. 09:42:50 I haven't found any documentation stating if forget was intentionally not added because it's only for evaluation or if another method is used 09:43:12 the ANS'94 mechanism for forgetting is MARKER 09:44:16 SEE can list the code of a word in several forths 09:44:23 when I try MARKER and my word it says that it isn't unique and then addes a 2nd word (that I'm trying to remove) from the dictionary? That's the opposite of what I am trying to do :) 09:44:23 --- quit: Labu (Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1) 09:44:54 well, MARKER doesn't work like FORGET 09:45:36 instead, it adds a marker, and when you call that marker, everything defined after it is forgotten 09:47:40 ok, but is there a way to specifically completely remove a word? 09:48:36 calling a marker is a way to completely remove words defined after it, AFAIUI 09:49:24 yeah that is not what's happening on mine. I might have to try gforth or another version 09:49:33 regarding SEE, it appears to be showing me the assembly listing for the compiled word. There is no way to retrieve the high level code as entered? 09:49:52 that depends on the implementation 09:50:10 gforth shows forth source code if it can, so does OpenFirmware 10:14:34 So I get the impression that before you entire a word into the dictionary you better be sure that everything is correct. Because the only alternative is to reset the system and reintroduce words previously entered up to that point minus the offending word? 10:14:45 + add 10:15:53 you can redefine words 10:17:19 I tried that and didn't get a lot of success 10:18:09 if you refine a word, other words that use it will continue to use the old definition 10:18:17 I have a feeling this "evaluation" version might be a bit compromised 10:18:36 yeah that is scary if true 10:19:01 i don't know which forth implementation you're using 10:19:10 SwiftForth evaluation edition 10:19:25 every time you close it the browser goes to the order page :) 10:19:37 I may just buy/build one of those little Fignition computers to mess around with 10:21:06 gforth (at least as initially setup in windows) has terrible colors for reading text 10:21:22 you could also get a FPGA board and put a Forth soft core on it 10:21:25 like http://www.saanlima.com/pepino/index.php?title=Welcome_to_Pepino 10:21:25 i didn't know gforth has colors at all 10:21:40 yes the one I just downloaded was a precompiled binary 10:23:19 gforth64, it reported back messages but I could hardly understand what they meant due to the clashing of colors 10:23:38 jn__: The first entry: http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/forth/gforth/Snapshots/current/ 10:25:05 mietek: Are you implying I should use it to use Forth through CP/M? 10:25:11 no 10:25:25 CP/M is just one example project 10:25:28 scroll down to see more 10:25:53 http://www.forth.org/cores.html 10:26:46 stop me if you know this: a FPGA is a reconfigurable chip that, among other things, allows you to build up a hardware description of another chip, such as a 68k, or a chip dedicated to running Forth 10:27:17 https://github.com/hanshuebner/rekonstrukt 10:27:27 here’s one I thought should run on the Pepino 10:27:30 I’m yet to try it myself 10:28:02 its relatively new to me but I think this might be overkill 10:28:29 perhaps. 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