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https://www.opengarden.com/meshkit.html <- Says that one of the comm methods they support is Bluetooth LE and I was wondering about if mecrisp micro:bit based 'nodes' would be a good idea. 11:08:38 pointfree: 1) those micro:bit boards are cheap. 2) mecrisp allows one to squeaze more functionality out of it. 3) related to 2), SPI (bitbanging) access to SD card for storage. 11:28:33 --- join: pierpa (~pierpa@host79-226-dynamic.12-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined #forth 11:33:08 --- quit: pierpa (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 11:40:12 --- join: pierpa (~pierpa@host79-226-dynamic.12-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined #forth 11:49:51 --- join: pierpa_ (4f0ce24f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.12.226.79) joined #forth 12:12:50 Zarutian_PI: hm opengarden looks interesting. 12:13:01 Thank you for reminding me that I have a few of these BLE modules in my desk: https://forum.arduino.cc/index.php?topic=517863.0 12:13:17 ...I wanted to use them in place of the bitbanged uart I have now on my PSoC 5LP fifo-style forth. 12:13:34 Myself and also Sam Falvo had difficult experiences with writing MicroSD card wordsets in Forth. MicroSD cards are all SDHC or newer afaik. 12:13:43 The regular old byte-addressed SD cards are hard to find nowadays. 12:13:54 The standards are changing frequently (are we on SDXC now?) 12:14:05 The SD card manufacturers don't comply with their own standards and specs. 12:14:21 I got a MicroSD sniffer https://www.sparkfun.com/products/9419 ...I plan to just capture and replay the various sd card commands for various brands and standards instead of painstakingly writing the drivers by hand. 12:14:43 I'm doing inductive programming in my forth ( http://www.0xff.in/bin/AndreasWagner-parse-time-execution.pdf ), 12:15:03 ...that way the captured sdio commands + their timing will themselves be the word names, 12:15:15 ...so the MicroSD cards themselves will write forth code to exchange bulk data with the PSoC 5LP. 12:15:22 Detecting brands of SD cards should not be a problem for this reason (that's all in the word names). 12:18:50 --- quit: johnmark_ (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 12:19:08 --- join: johnmark_ (~johnmark@d53-64-121-247.nap.wideopenwest.com) joined #forth 14:03:59 pointfree: so, the protocol used by SD cards has changed that much? 14:30:44 Zarutian_PI: Yeah SD cards are byte addressed. SDHC and newer are block addressed. SPI mode is optional on the newer SDHC, etc cards. Getting one to work by following specifications is tricky and hit-or-miss. 15:34:10 --- quit: jedb (K-Lined) 15:48:24 --- quit: epony (Quit: QUIT) 16:16:04 --- quit: johnmark_ (Quit: Leaving) 16:19:59 --- join: Gromboli (~Gromboli@static-72-88-80-103.bflony.fios.verizon.net) joined #forth 16:20:32 --- quit: dual (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 16:25:36 --- quit: pierpa (Quit: Poof) 16:26:58 --- quit: impomatic (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 16:27:47 --- join: Kumool (~Kumool@adsl-64-237-235-103.prtc.net) joined #forth 16:29:48 --- join: dual (~bonafide@cpe-24-198-98-113.maine.res.rr.com) joined #forth 16:33:58 --- join: tccki644 (~yzvck@43.225.66.201) joined #forth 16:36:00 --- quit: tccki644 (Remote host closed the connection) 16:50:52 --- quit: Kumool (Quit: Leaving) 16:54:12 --- join: Kumool (~Kumool@adsl-64-237-235-103.prtc.net) joined #forth 17:04:29 --- join: epony (~nym@79-100-134-61.ip.btc-net.bg) joined #forth 17:06:32 --- quit: epony (Max SendQ exceeded) 17:06:54 --- join: epony (~nym@79-100-134-61.ip.btc-net.bg) joined #forth 17:21:45 --- join: jedb (~jedb@199.66.90.209) joined #forth 17:39:31 --- quit: dddddd (Remote host closed the connection) 17:52:55 --- quit: dys (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 18:07:59 --- join: Zarutian_PI2 (~3.1415@173-133-17-89.fiber.hringdu.is) joined #forth 18:08:01 --- quit: Zarutian_PI (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18:14:11 --- join: reepca (~user@208.89.170.230) joined #forth 18:19:49 --- nick: Zarutian_PI2 -> Zarutian_PI 18:53:49 --- quit: epony (Quit: QUIT) 18:55:43 --- join: epony (~nym@79-100-134-61.ip.btc-net.bg) joined #forth 19:06:35 --- join: diginet2 (~diginet@107.170.146.29) joined #forth 19:22:50 For the electronics thinking people here: What would you call the spoon you use in your breakfast bowl? - SPI. 19:25:50 idgi 19:27:06 zy]x[yz: SPI is one method many Microcontrolers use to communicate with other chips. 19:29:28 --- quit: pierpa_ (Quit: Page closed) 19:37:07 yes I know 19:37:30 I've written bitbanging code for it before 19:37:55 I don't follow how it relates to a breakfast spoon 19:38:49 say what SPI stand for out loud. 19:39:08 god damnit 19:43:10 pretty awfully good that one, no? :3 19:43:50 --- join: republican_devil (~g@209.6.150.53) joined #forth 19:44:05 where can I learn about creating forth databases? 19:44:42 I want to use only forth perhaps gforth for some cgi web apps....I guess I can use files....I am trying to avoid all the complexity of using like postgresql and php 19:44:47 --- nick: republican_devil -> hastuur 19:45:04 I see startign and thinking forth as main texts I should review 19:57:45 --- join: pierpa (~pierpa@host79-226-dynamic.12-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined #forth 20:02:32 --- quit: pierpa (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 20:14:01 --- join: pierpa (~pierpa@host79-226-dynamic.12-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined #forth 20:17:32 --- quit: dual (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 20:21:58 --- join: fptsuggs (~civuj@14.207.112.51) joined #forth 20:24:00 --- quit: fptsuggs (Remote host closed the connection) 20:34:33 --- join: int0x27hhz (~zmbiamg@189.124.16.170) joined #forth 20:36:35 --- quit: int0x27hhz (Remote host closed the connection) 20:40:38 --- quit: Gromboli (Quit: Leaving) 20:46:23 --- join: dual (~bonafide@cpe-24-198-98-113.maine.res.rr.com) joined #forth 20:49:22 --- join: nqzymurgy (~nddybe@177.220.233.26) joined #forth 20:51:23 --- quit: nqzymurgy (Remote host closed the connection) 20:54:28 --- join: johnmark_ (~johnmark@d53-64-121-247.nap.wideopenwest.com) joined #forth 20:58:22 --- quit: pierpa (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21:08:04 --- join: ybjexlck (~qigjlql@14.207.112.51) joined #forth 21:10:06 --- quit: ybjexlck (Remote host closed the connection) 21:34:39 --- join: pierpa (~pierpa@host79-226-dynamic.12-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) joined #forth 21:58:18 --- join: smokeink (~smokeink@185.134.120.54) joined #forth 22:43:55 --- quit: epsyloN (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 22:45:35 --- join: epsyloN (~epsyloN_@46.101.115.67) joined #forth 23:27:06 --- quit: Kumool (Quit: Leaving) 23:57:43 --- join: dys (~dys@tmo-106-5.customers.d1-online.com) joined #forth 23:58:19 --- quit: dual (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/18.04.12