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CALL 415-349-5666 #LRH EFNETnqsnsgp: cheater DGASAU diginet2 MrMobius M-jimt ovf johnmark_ dys ecraven sigjuice Zarutian_PI roundsf lonjil2 bedah clog xek yunfan tusj tangentstorm APic izabera bavier proteusguy fiddlerwoaroof malyn reepca djinni a 18:07:02 06,11▄12,12▄08,11▄04,04▄02,04▄09,08▄03,05▄13,08▄04,13▄07,11▄06 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--jYqzJErTI LRH IS LIVE NOW!! CALL 415-349-5666 #LRH EFNETjbjtt: hobbes- nighty- xek lonjil2 phadthai FatalNIX DGASAU astronavt zy]x[yz jn proteusguy irsol diginet2 rgrinberg pointfree1 izabera crc reepca ovf dys roundsf cheater M-jimt fiddlerwoaroof APic yunfan bavier dzho zignig jedb pointfree rpcope- Za 18:07:07 02,11▄13,09▄08,09▄02,03▄04,13▄04,11▄12,04▄06,13▄13,03▄03,13▄10 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--jYqzJErTI LRH IS LIVE NOW!! CALL 415-349-5666 #LRH EFNETkyqxkhxup: roundsf josh5tone zy]x[yz MrMobius DGASAU pointfree1 tangentstorm xek koisoke jn sigjuice jedb bavier astronavt ovf bluekelp tusj izabera MrBusiness cess11_ phadthai rprimus proteus-guy johnmark_ Zarutian_PI jeremyheiler ecraven M-jimt ca 18:07:22 07,02▄08,09▄11,10▄04,06▄03,13▄04,03▄13,02▄10,11▄11,06▄08,12▄12,02▄09 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--jYqzJErTI LRH IS LIVE NOW!! CALL 415-349-5666 #LRH EFNETfegpek: ovf bedah zignig rpcope- crc Zarutian_PI nighty- tangentstorm pointfree rodarmor pointfree1 cess11_ hobbes- cheater DGASAU diginet2 malyn johnmark_ izabera MrBusiness yunfan APic fiddlerwoaroof reepca MrMobius jedb FatalNIX koisoke 18:07:22 05,05▄10,09▄09,09▄09,04▄09,12▄05,08▄12,02▄13,03▄02,06▄02,10▄09,08▄13,03▄08,11▄04,09▄02 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--jYqzJErTI LRH IS LIVE NOW!! CALL 415-349-5666 #LRH EFNETlpfeqjkkpd: pointfree1 carc malyn bedah APic tangentstorm bavier jn roundsf Zarutian_PI irsol sigjuice zignig astronavt zy]x[yz tusj fiddlerwoaroof crc johnmark_ diginet2 dzho cess11_ larsb DGASAU xek nighty- 18:07:25 06,06▄05,04▄12,12▄04,11▄07,06▄03,11▄10,04▄12,10▄03,11▄09,09▄06,04▄08,07▄09,13▄02,07▄08,08▄05,09▄10,04▄11,06▄08,06▄02 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--jYqzJErTI LRH IS LIVE NOW!! CALL 415-349-5666 #LRH EFNETxaryoi: cess11_ rprimus dys MrBusiness larsb bavier hobbes- DGASAU josh5tone zy]x[yz zignig rodarmor cheater MrMobius irsol roundsf bluekelp malyn lonjil2 tang 18:07:27 13,09▄13,02▄02,05▄05,06▄10,11▄08,05▄07,04▄08,02▄10,12▄09,04▄06,06▄02,10▄07,04▄06 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--jYqzJErTI LRH IS LIVE NOW!! CALL 415-349-5666 #LRH EFNETgyfgdbyxmq: rpcope- johnmark_ hobbes- astronavt DGASAU ovf ecraven xek dzho proteus-guy rodarmor dograt rgrinberg koisoke tusj malyn izabera larsb bedah cess11_ tangentstorm MrMobius carc jedb nighty- phadthai jeremyhei 18:07:32 08,13▄04,13▄02,04▄09,03▄11,02▄04,03▄11,03▄05,12▄08,11▄05,04▄13,05▄04,05▄02,04▄10,13▄04,13▄04 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--jYqzJErTI LRH IS LIVE NOW!! CALL 415-349-5666 #LRH EFNETyanetwnn: FatalNIX diginet2 zignig cheater DGASAU pointfree1 proteusguy larsb ecraven rodarmor xek rpcope- jeremyheiler bavier Zarutian_PI carc tangentstorm hobbes- jn reepca tusj phadthai rprimus be 18:07:37 08,11▄06,05▄12,02▄11,02▄02,03▄10,02▄05,12▄07,08▄08,04▄13,06▄11,11▄02,10▄04,09▄02,11▄10,08▄04,05▄12,06▄03 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--jYqzJErTI LRH IS LIVE NOW!! CALL 415-349-5666 #LRH EFNETokazaq: irsol pointfree1 jeremyheiler cess11_ dograt rprimus rodarmor phadthai bedah sigjuice djinni ovf a3f jedb dys reepca APic clog yunfan dzho nighty- zy]x[yz astronavt josh5t 18:07:42 12,02▄05,10▄12,07▄11,12▄04,07▄06,08▄09,12▄06,11▄05,10▄11,07▄07,06▄09,04▄06,08▄02,06▄10 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--jYqzJErTI LRH IS LIVE NOW!! CALL 415-349-5666 #LRH EFNETkhdvqplv: ovf crc dzho tangentstorm malyn rodarmor sigjuice xek izabera koisoke M-jimt bedah reepca bluekelp rprimus cess11_ rgrinberg MrBusiness zignig APic jedb yunfan clog nighty- phadthai lonjil2 djinni fi 18:07:51 02,09▄02,11▄05,08▄11,03▄03,08▄09,13▄03,06▄12,12▄08,10▄06,12▄08,06▄08,10▄11,11▄07 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--jYqzJErTI LRH IS LIVE NOW!! CALL 415-349-5666 #LRH EFNETthjzicuoj: dys cheater reepca crc MrBusiness rodarmor ovf yunfan malyn M-jimt jedb johnmark_ phadthai tusj fiddlerwoaroof lonjil2 dograt diginet2 cess11_ larsb proteus-guy bluekelp zy]x[yz nighty- FatalNIX sigjuice josh 18:07:52 12,09▄11,03▄07,03▄08,10▄07,04▄06,04▄03,07▄07,03▄13,04▄02,10▄10,08▄10,03▄11 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--jYqzJErTI LRH IS LIVE NOW!! CALL 415-349-5666 #LRH EFNETzpbaa: proteusguy lonjil2 pointfree malyn diginet2 DGASAU koisoke jeremyheiler zy]x[yz reepca phadthai proteus-guy M-jimt bedah jedb djinni larsb cess11_ cheater MrBusiness rodarmor hobbes- rgrinberg zignig roundsf pointfree1 jn 18:08:00 05,02▄03,08▄06,08▄13,11▄07,05▄07,09▄02,02▄02,08▄04,02▄10,04▄09,12▄13,02▄07,13▄11,04▄06,10▄13,11▄06,07▄07,12▄03 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--jYqzJErTI LRH IS LIVE NOW!! CALL 415-349-5666 #LRH EFNETdxsnenol: pointfree proteusguy cheater phadthai bedah djinni yunfan FatalNIX dzho jn ovf roundsf MrMobius fiddlerwoaroof crc DGASAU pointfree1 jedb clog zignig rgrinberg 18:08:00 --- mode: crc set +b *!~ntqzw@c-73-91-18-29.hsd1.fl.comcast.net 18:08:08 --- kick: irss685 was kicked by crc (irss685) 18:08:53 --- mode: crc set +o koisoke 18:09:23 fun times. 18:09:30 hi 18:10:03 howdy 18:10:36 * crc hates spammers 18:11:35 hi johnmark_ 18:11:41 hi 18:11:43 crc: so say we all 18:11:55 thanks for the ban 18:12:05 * Zarutian_PI looks around Cylons. 18:12:13 for* 18:12:51 Thank you stopping the flood. 18:14:18 There is a famous football player that shares my name. 18:15:01 johnmark_: have you thought about selling your autographs on ebay? 18:15:33 No. I am a vintage computer hobbies living in Chicago. 18:16:19 I am helping to organize the CoCo 18:16:23 Co 18:16:39 CoCoFEST for the Tandy color computer. 18:18:49 Cool - great little computer. One of the first I ever played with and got to learn what an amazing processor the 6809 was. 18:19:59 Yes the 6809 is one of the better 8-bits. 18:23:18 crc do you see the post? 18:25:45 no 18:27:07 I am getting a mess that reads "* You have been invited to #johnmark_is a low form of human life by irss685 (adams.freenode.net) 18:27:41 johnmark_: not familiar with the 6809 other then the name. (I am assuming it is a chip by Motorola) 18:28:03 is it based of the 6502 in some way? 18:28:21 Yes it is a simple 8-bit computer my Motorola. 18:29:25 accumulator based? 18:29:30 Yes 18:29:49 any neat features? 18:30:42 You can write position independent code for it. 18:31:24 So you can relocate the code and run it without having to modify it first. 18:32:35 so relative jumps/calls/branches basically 18:32:47 yes 18:33:19 An no real need for self-modifying code. 18:33:45 And a 16-bit stack. 18:34:20 oh, so the stack pointer can be targetted to anywhere in memory address space 18:34:34 yes 18:36:14 --- quit: astronavt (Remote host closed the connection) 18:36:25 does it have something like priviledged/problem mode bit? (better know as kernel/user mode bit) 18:36:54 I no not think so. 18:37:16 The Tandy Color Computer 3 has a MMU. 18:38:04 with virtual to physical address translation or just simple segmentation? 18:38:20 The Color Computer 3 can fun OS-9/6809, NitrOS-9, and Fuzix. 18:39:04 I do not know. 18:39:44 I most write assembly language for a 64k address space. 18:40:27 I wrote a program to solve a 3x3 magic square. 18:40:34 I fount 8 solutions. 18:40:47 I found 8 solutions. 18:42:52 The Color Computer 3 can run multi-user multi-tasking software like NitrOS-9 and Fuzix 18:43:44 And of course forth 18:43:49 johnmark_: I have no messages from irss685 18:43:50 --- join: astronavt (~astronavt@2604:2000:1343:4291:d032:dc68:326d:c75) joined #forth 18:43:56 ok 18:44:40 someone was tying to get me to go to a private chat and calling a bad word. 18:44:48 just cooparative or did, as it had an interrupt controler to, allow preemptive multitasking (using a timer to trigger task switches)? 18:45:32 I am not sure. 18:45:59 I am a real-time embedded C programmer for microcontrollers. 18:47:02 úúh, so you should be familiar with barrel processors and hard-hard realtime programming, no? 18:47:19 My knowledge for the Color Computer (CoCo) is mostly based on BASIC and assembly without the MMU. 18:48:25 I guess some memory-addressed registers basically controled the MMU and told it which banks should be switched in 18:48:36 I mostly write my own operating system using a main loop that calls a number of state machines. 18:48:53 Yes 18:49:06 FSM and AFSM for the relative win! 18:49:08 I think you can select any 8k bank 18:54:02 My CoCo 3 currently has 512k RAM. 18:54:30 I hope to upgrade it to 8M RAM. 18:55:41 hmm.. if the control registers are in one of those 8K banks and the interrupt controler can tell the MMU to switch one of the slots to that bank then you can have some memory safety 18:56:18 is there an software interrupt instruction on Motorola 6809? 18:56:45 Yes SWI, SWI2, and SWI3. 18:58:01 so doing 'syscalls' can be done too then. 18:58:29 Yes I thin OS-9/6809 uses that. 18:59:26 I think you follow the SWI with a constant that specifies the function call. 19:02:41 what I am thinking is the setup I described where the control registers and interrupt service routine live in one and the same 8K bank shows that one doesnt need priviledged/problem mode in the processor itself. 19:03:08 oh! 19:04:22 I like Linux. 19:04:43 it is too big to run on something like CoCo3 though 19:04:56 Yes 19:05:05 --- join: Gromboli (~Gromboli@static-72-88-80-103.bflony.fios.verizon.net) joined #forth 19:05:15 Fuzix will though. 19:05:17 and I am more of an FreeBSD guy, specially due to Capsicum. 19:08:11 do you have any info on Tandy CoCo3 MMU and interrupt controler? 19:08:24 Well yes! 19:09:11 * Zarutian_PI finds and looks at https://www.manualslib.com/manual/1013055/Tandy-Color-Computer-3.html 19:09:24 --- quit: astronavt (Remote host closed the connection) 19:09:31 GIME: http://users.axess.com/twilight/sock/gime.html 19:10:59 --- join: astronavt (~astronavt@2604:2000:1343:4291:1444:50c9:b10a:61e1) joined #forth 19:11:27 The GIME is the MMU for the CoCo 3 19:11:38 --- quit: astronavt (Remote host closed the connection) 19:12:13 "The task register select" looks promising. 19:19:59 righto, seems they, the designers, had the same-ish idea 19:21:57 "The task bit is generally set to zero in DECB." <- what is DECB in this context? 19:22:56 johnmark_: ^ 19:42:17 DECB => Disk Extended Color BASIC 20:20:26 anyway, I am off to bed 20:29:51 --- join: roundsf` (~user@2a00:2381:1a72:10:a932:c249:e6a1:bd50) joined #forth 20:33:37 --- quit: roundsf (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 20:50:06 --- quit: Gromboli (Quit: Leaving) 20:52:41 --- quit: proteusguy (Remote host closed the connection) 21:14:43 --- quit: MrMobius (Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- s0 d4Mn l33t |t'z 5c4rY!) 21:15:16 --- join: MrMobius (~MrMobius@h168.165.28.71.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined #forth 22:38:24 --- join: proteusguy (~proteus-g@180.183.119.155) joined #forth 22:38:24 --- mode: ChanServ set +v proteusguy 23:51:35 hi 23:51:42 lighted i have been 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/17.12.17