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seconds) 17:31:53 --- join: ZombieChicken (~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/forgottenwizard) joined #forth 17:33:33 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@freebsd/user/wa5qjh) joined #forth 17:36:08 getting forth on this thing would be a pita 17:36:17 if I can JUST find a damn color forth for cassette 17:36:21 and not disk or cart.. sigh 17:36:30 can only do cassettes 17:37:49 --- quit: wa5qjh (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 17:44:53 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@freebsd/user/wa5qjh) joined #forth 17:49:12 --- quit: wa5qjh (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 17:50:57 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@freebsd/user/wa5qjh) joined #forth 17:55:30 --- quit: wa5qjh (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 17:55:37 cassettes. 17:55:53 really? 17:56:17 a retro-heap I take it :) 17:57:23 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@freebsd/user/wa5qjh) joined #forth 18:00:26 --- join: wa5qjh_ (~Thunderbi@freebsd/user/wa5qjh) joined #forth 18:01:48 --- quit: wa5qjh (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 18:01:53 beretta: I don't have disk basic 18:02:18 so without some assembly / basic peeks and pokes I can't even use a disk drive if I had one 18:04:53 --- quit: wa5qjh_ (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 18:05:29 which klunk-a-dunk you trying to program? The CoCo2 had a "ColorForth", but it had a lot of "Color_____" titles 18:06:25 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@freebsd/user/wa5qjh) joined #forth 18:10:24 yyes 18:10:43 I can only find color forth for disk or cart 18:10:45 --- quit: wa5qjh (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 18:11:10 if I could extract the program off of the disk somehow and convert it to coco compatible AFSK in a WAV however.. 18:11:35 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@freebsd/user/wa5qjh) joined #forth 18:11:36 then I may be able to LOADM the file from disk 18:11:43 beretta: coco2 btw 18:12:54 I thought of bootstrapping an assembly written forth by writing a very minimal STC forth in BASIC and writing an assembler in that 18:13:23 the problem is, how to manage the return stack and such. I have some ideas.. 18:13:49 it looks like there will be some assembly routines of course 18:15:17 disk or cart. 18:17:29 I don't have a way of interfacing the cart without getting one unless I do some black magic on the cart port with my eeprom or something 18:17:58 the only way I can use a disk is if I can get the actual program out from the disk and load it via audio AFSK 18:18:02 as a casette 18:18:18 I can just play the wav from the computer but 18:21:00 toolshed's "makewav" utility will do the bit of converting a BIN to a .wav file for CLOADM'ing 18:21:05 hmm 18:21:12 never heard of it 18:21:50 so the trick will be pulling BIN off the disk or cart. 18:22:18 if you're lucky the disk file will be just a regular BIN file. 18:22:47 toolshed's 'decb' utility will let you get/put files to and from a disk image. 18:23:04 do you have a disk image? 18:26:00 --- join: wa5qjh_ (~Thunderbi@freebsd/user/wa5qjh) joined #forth 18:26:45 --- quit: wa5qjh (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 18:26:47 --- nick: wa5qjh_ -> wa5qjh 18:28:29 lol beretta I had to modify the C code just to get it to compile 18:28:34 the guy didn't even put commas in his fprintfs 18:28:42 I do 18:28:48 have a disk image that is 18:29:09 toolshed has some neat things 18:31:03 --- quit: wa5qjh (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 18:36:07 oh I see why it failed to compile 18:36:11 his macro was defined elsewhere 18:36:24 so I didnt see that he was doing hacky macros 18:39:00 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@freebsd/user/wa5qjh) joined #forth 18:43:17 --- quit: wa5qjh (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 18:44:57 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@freebsd/user/wa5qjh) joined #forth 18:46:01 http://www.colorcomputerarchive.com/search?q=forth&ww=0&cat=&cs=0 18:50:26 --- join: wa5qjh_ (~Thunderbi@freebsd/user/wa5qjh) joined #forth 18:50:43 I think its a hidden feature that 'makewav' does BIN files too... let me confirm 18:51:17 --- quit: wa5qjh (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 18:51:18 --- nick: wa5qjh_ -> wa5qjh 18:51:27 yeah... "-r" should do the trick 18:55:33 --- quit: wa5qjh (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 18:55:55 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@freebsd/user/wa5qjh) joined #forth 19:00:21 --- quit: wa5qjh (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 19:01:58 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@freebsd/user/wa5qjh) joined #forth 19:09:16 --- join: wa5qjh_ (~Thunderbi@freebsd/user/wa5qjh) joined #forth 19:11:05 --- quit: wa5qjh (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 19:13:46 --- quit: wa5qjh_ (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 19:15:10 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@freebsd/user/wa5qjh) joined #forth 19:17:58 --- join: wa5qjh_ (~Thunderbi@freebsd/user/wa5qjh) joined #forth 19:19:31 --- quit: wa5qjh (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 19:22:15 --- quit: wa5qjh_ (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 19:23:57 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@freebsd/user/wa5qjh) joined #forth 19:31:21 --- quit: jedb (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 19:40:41 --- quit: wa5qjh (Remote host closed the connection) 19:42:36 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@freebsd/user/wa5qjh) joined #forth 19:45:29 beretta: OH THANKS! 19:45:39 because I kept getting "THIS FILE DOESNT HAVE A S HEADER!" 19:45:40 lol 19:46:00 I was fighting with this for the past half hour lol 19:46:03 --- join: wa5qjh_ (~Thunderbi@freebsd/user/wa5qjh) joined #forth 19:47:33 --- quit: wa5qjh (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 19:48:30 --- join: jedb (~jedb@123.100.35.143) joined #forth 19:50:31 --- quit: wa5qjh_ (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 19:51:05 hmm. so I got it to recognize the filename on load into coco, but it seems the file is just an infinite high pitched wave with like a stutter every second 19:51:10 not quite sure what's going on there 19:51:57 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@freebsd/user/wa5qjh) joined #forth 19:56:23 --- quit: wa5qjh (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 19:57:57 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@freebsd/user/wa5qjh) joined #forth 19:57:59 maybe "-r" means a "raw memory image", not a BIN format. 20:00:51 --- join: wa5qjh_ (~Thunderbi@freebsd/user/wa5qjh) joined #forth 20:02:15 --- quit: wa5qjh (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 20:05:39 --- quit: wa5qjh_ (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 20:06:50 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@freebsd/user/wa5qjh) joined #forth 20:11:29 --- quit: wa5qjh (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 20:11:56 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@freebsd/user/wa5qjh) joined #forth 20:16:39 --- quit: jedb (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 20:16:57 --- join: jedb (~jedb@199.66.90.113) joined #forth 20:18:01 dunno 20:19:24 --- quit: wa5qjh (Remote host closed the connection) 20:37:44 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@host-92-8-44-152.as43234.net) joined #forth 20:42:13 --- quit: mnemnion (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 20:51:26 ok I created an srecord file :D 20:51:35 but it does seem makewav may be broken on FreeBSD 20:51:45 dunnu why its not generating proper wav files 20:52:38 aha. 20:52:58 if I make a cas file it's almost entirely empty 21:25:16 --- quit: Chef_Gromboli (Quit: Leaving) 22:06:10 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@host-92-8-44-152.as43234.net) joined #forth 23:33:39 --- quit: mnemnion (Remote host closed the connection) 23:35:37 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@host-92-8-44-152.as43234.net) joined #forth 23:54:46 --- quit: dys (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/17.10.14