00:00:00 --- log: started forth/17.10.08 00:19:03 --- join: karswell_ (~user@146.91.199.146.dyn.plus.net) joined #forth 00:20:55 --- quit: karswell (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 00:21:13 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@c-73-34-61-146.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 01:00:39 --- join: impomatic (~impomatic@host81-136-109-199.range81-136.btcentralplus.com) joined #forth 02:51:43 --- quit: MrBusiness3 (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 03:00:24 --- join: gravicappa (~gravicapp@ppp83-237-165-82.pppoe.mtu-net.ru) joined #forth 03:46:48 --- quit: wa5qjh_ (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 03:56:45 --- join: igstan (~igstan@89.36.15.98) joined #forth 04:05:43 --- quit: igstan (Quit: igstan) 04:11:55 --- join: igstan (~igstan@89.36.15.98) joined #forth 04:15:01 --- quit: igstan (Client Quit) 04:49:11 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@freebsd/user/wa5qjh) joined #forth 04:55:57 --- quit: wa5qjh (Remote host closed the connection) 05:00:47 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@freebsd/user/wa5qjh) joined #forth 05:30:39 --- quit: wa5qjh (Remote host closed the connection) 05:30:58 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@freebsd/user/wa5qjh) joined #forth 05:41:33 --- quit: wa5qjh (Remote host closed the connection) 05:41:53 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@freebsd/user/wa5qjh) joined #forth 05:57:18 --- quit: jedb (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 06:14:33 --- join: jedb (~jedb@123.100.45.84) joined #forth 06:18:23 --- quit: gravicappa (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 06:24:09 --- quit: wa5qjh (Remote host closed the connection) 06:55:21 --- quit: jedb (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 06:55:37 --- join: jedb (~jedb@71.19.248.193) joined #forth 07:01:57 --- quit: jedb (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 07:18:03 --- join: jedb (~jedb@199.66.90.113) joined #forth 08:40:35 so getting a hex editor running is a small leap to porting forth for the debug part 08:40:38 https://imgur.com/a/Pj13h 08:40:49 oops wrong picture 08:40:56 that's part of the basic code for the hex editor.. 08:44:42 --- quit: mnemnion (Remote host closed the connection) 08:44:56 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@c-73-34-61-146.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 08:49:35 --- join: rtmanpages (~rtmanpage@155.sub-174-204-0.myvzw.com) joined #forth 08:55:33 https://imgur.com/a/zgY1b 08:55:35 there 09:03:05 (pForth is fundamentally broken, BTW, but you are not going to notice it before you start using it not for toy problems.) 09:03:33 OTOH, FICL breakage is even worse. 09:48:22 FatalNIX: on what architecture/platform are you targetting? 09:48:48 6800E on a TRS-80 coco2 09:49:18 6809E* 11:08:23 --- quit: jedb (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 11:23:06 --- join: MrBusiness3 (~ArcMrBism@2602:306:8325:a300:c801:d7f:77e1:92be) joined #forth 11:25:22 --- join: jedb (~jedb@123.100.45.84) joined #forth 11:45:58 --- quit: mnemnion (Remote host closed the connection) 11:46:33 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@c-73-34-61-146.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 11:48:04 --- quit: mnemnion (Remote host closed the connection) 11:48:18 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@c-73-34-61-146.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 12:15:01 --- quit: jedb (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 12:15:19 --- join: jedb (jedb@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-ltghkbsexgvcgslu) joined #forth 13:55:17 --- quit: mnemnion (Remote host closed the connection) 13:55:50 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@c-73-34-61-146.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 13:59:38 --- quit: mnemnion (Remote host closed the connection) 13:59:54 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@c-73-34-61-146.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 15:00:54 --- quit: rprimus (Remote host closed the connection) 15:08:23 --- quit: karswell_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15:37:33 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@freebsd/user/wa5qjh) joined #forth 17:40:09 --- join: karswell_ (~user@146.91.199.146.dyn.plus.net) joined #forth 17:47:51 --- quit: rtmanpages (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 18:39:22 I dunno wtf is happening 18:39:35 but my usr calls are documented right in my book and they dont work 18:41:22 ? 18:45:19 --- join: leaverite (~quassel@175.158.225.204) joined #forth 18:45:19 --- quit: leaverite (Changing host) 18:45:19 --- join: leaverite (~quassel@freebsd/user/wa5qjh) joined #forth 19:22:06 --- nick: leaverite -> wa5qjh_ 19:22:47 --- nick: wa5qjh -> wa5qjh_1 19:23:13 --- nick: wa5qjh_ -> wa5qjh 19:23:38 --- nick: wa5qjh_1 -> wa5qjh_ 19:25:56 FatalNIX hey, you using gforth in FreeBSD ? 19:26:06 or linux? 19:26:07 yeah I dunno what else there is for it 19:26:12 its the only one I found 19:26:36 koisoke: on my trs-80 usr functions arent working in ECBASIC 19:47:15 koisoke: https://imgur.com/a/OHr85 19:55:45 --- join: rtmanpages (~rtmanpage@228.sub-174-204-5.myvzw.com) joined #forth 20:19:13 FatalNIX you still here ? 20:57:09 FataLNIX I am back from Tandy Assembly. I am working on at 32-bit math library for the Tandy Color Computer or 6809 microprocessor. I am using LWTools for my cross assembler. I am using ToolShed to place the files on a virtual floppy. I am using an emulator to test and debug my code. 20:57:46 yeah I'm around 20:58:06 thought you'd dish-appeared! 20:58:28 im helping somebody port fig forth to a 6502 in minecraft atm 20:58:32 heh 20:59:05 johnmark_: neat 20:59:14 I wrote a hex editor today for it that's pretty feature full 20:59:28 so that I can do things with it 20:59:37 even has a jump instruction 21:00:36 like to hear more, but have a couple questions. concerning editor in gforth. It say it has a viusual editor for doing blocks but I dont know of any forth editing commands beyond what's in LB's Starting forth. 21:02:15 --- quit: jedb (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 21:02:32 like to hear more, but have a couple questions. concerning editor in gforth. It say it has a viusual editor for doing blocks but I dont know of any forth editing commands beyond what's in LB's Starting forth.And, working on editor last night, noticwed that if you do anything on a new gforth install, that calls for blocks, it creates blocks..fb 21:02:57 which i then editied out of the gforth. 21:03:08 outside gforth 21:05:09 I'm not sure which is the 'first' block. 0 or 1 but seems to be dependent on how it's sought. 21:05:22 I'm actually kind of fed up with gforth 21:05:38 because every time I try to paste in multi line words I define it hates me 21:06:02 I couldnt: 0 load untill after i had: 1 list 21:06:07 I don't know much about gforth really, I'd bet crc does 21:06:54 do you use Forth in FreeBSD at ll? if so, which one ? 21:07:22 heh, I see you on #freebsd. 21:08:48 crc is away. he doesnt use freebsd does he ? 21:08:51 I'm using gforth because that's the only one I saw in ports, but I really dislike it 21:09:07 just randomly started using it the other day 21:09:35 AH! so how do you edit blocks or do you use other regular files ? 21:10:11 I haven't really figured out the block thing yet, I just copy and paste source from emacs XD 21:10:16 the only other Forth in FreeBSD I see is pfe forth. have it installed but it doesnt seem to like blocks at all!! 21:11:21 yeah when I was starting forth with the book a little while ago my forth didnt have any blocks so I couldn't really test it or see how it worked 21:11:38 well, if you do "1 block list" then look in the directory, you should see a blocks.fb there. 21:12:01 I have a gforth dir and a pfe dir set up. 21:12:26 and, there's several pfe 4th filesin /boot 21:13:16 I'm not really a fan of gnu things\ 21:13:25 but untill you do that 1 list, foirst time, no blocks.fb 21:13:27 cept f 21:13:30 I do like emacs 21:13:41 if I do 1 block list it says invalid block heh 21:14:14 i just use 'ee' or 'scite' but havent tried forth in scite yet. 21:15:12 yeah, it didnt like me doing it the first time either. I havent really figgered out what I did to get it. 21:16:05 some combo of 0 list or 1 load or 1 list. not sure what did it now since it didnt work for you. 21:17:31 I\m much less sure of how you'd find the boundary of block 0 and block 1 since I cant seem to write to any bloclk withing gforth. 21:19:19 'm beginning to think that T.I. Launchpad with an MSP430???2553 might make the easiest stand-alone forth device. 21:19:24 --- join: jedb (~jedb@123.100.45.84) joined #forth 21:21:05 I havent used emacs sincearound 92 on Mark Williams 'Coherent' 21:22:10 I'm not too fond of overly smart editors. :) 21:27:31 you use emacs25 or uemacs-4 ? 21:30:57 what the heck does emacs need with imagemagic? 21:31:37 another superflous dependency 21:34:36 25. I just ind the default features very comfortable 21:39:48 yeah, that's one disconcerting thing about FreeBSD pkg system, install something new and it want to totally update the system. 21:59:35 --- quit: jedb (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 21:59:51 --- join: jedb (~jedb@199.66.90.113) joined #forth 22:14:14 --- quit: rtmanpages (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 23:14:52 --- quit: proteusguy (Remote host closed the connection) 23:38:54 --- join: proteusguy (~proteus-g@61-91-169-98.static.asianet.co.th) joined #forth 23:38:54 --- mode: ChanServ set +v proteusguy 23:46:56 gforth is still "portable" in Forth sense: you've got to port it. 23:47:15 Unless FreeBSD packager patched gforth heavily, you need to do it yourself. 23:48:10 As for using traditional blocks in gforth... 23:48:14 Better don't. 23:49:19 Besides, "0 load" cannot work even theoretically. 23:49:33 Any Forth programmer should know it already. 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/17.10.08