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See You later, Gals and/or Pals. ☺) 15:01:41 --- quit: Guest21542 (Quit: ZNC 1.6.2 - http://znc.in) 15:11:59 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@freebsd/user/wa5qjh) joined #forth 15:29:27 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@c-73-223-86-196.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 15:43:20 --- quit: nighty-_ (Quit: leaving) 15:43:36 --- join: nighty-_ (~cp@s229123.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) joined #forth 15:49:14 --- quit: nighty- (Quit: Disappears in a puff of smoke) 15:52:03 --- join: smokeink (~smoke@221.7.252.116) joined #forth 15:56:13 --- join: ACTPic (apic@apic.name) joined #forth 15:57:19 --- join: Chef_Gromboli (~Chef_Grom@static-72-88-80-103.bflony.fios.verizon.net) joined #forth 16:02:05 --- nick: wa5qjh -> wa5qjh_ 16:03:20 --- quit: ACTPic (Quit: leaving) 16:33:52 --- quit: mnemnion (Remote host closed the connection) 16:46:15 --- join: wa5qjh (~quassel@175.158.225.209) joined #forth 16:46:15 --- quit: wa5qjh (Changing host) 16:46:15 --- join: wa5qjh (~quassel@freebsd/user/wa5qjh) joined #forth 17:16:17 --- join: MrBusiness (~ArcMrBism@2602:306:8325:a300:506c:f696:363c:db86) joined #forth 17:23:41 --- join: ACTPic (apic@apic.name) joined #forth 17:25:43 --- quit: ACTPic (Client Quit) 17:26:29 --- join: APic (apic@apic.name) joined #forth 17:32:23 --- quit: wa5qjh (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17:32:24 --- quit: wa5qjh_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17:32:45 --- nick: forgottenwizard -> ZombieChicken 17:33:59 --- join: wa5qjh_ (~Thunderbi@freebsd/user/wa5qjh) joined #forth 17:40:43 --- quit: wa5qjh_ (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 17:40:48 --- join: wa5qjh (~quassel@110.54.220.227) joined #forth 17:40:48 --- quit: wa5qjh (Changing host) 17:40:48 --- join: wa5qjh (~quassel@freebsd/user/wa5qjh) joined #forth 17:40:55 --- join: wa5qjh_ (~Thunderbi@freebsd/user/wa5qjh) joined #forth 17:49:04 --- join: nighty- (~nighty@kyotolabs.asahinet.com) joined #forth 17:58:38 I was thinking that with the Internet of Things that more and more common everyday items like a light bulb could have a low-cost microprocessor. Like an 8-bit with 16-bit memory pointers, so as to produce small-size code. It sounds like a perfect place for forth. 18:00:59 What if what was old is new again. 18:02:25 However my most recent job search (the last 3 months) did not turn up any forth programming jobs. 18:06:15 johnmark_: you have to sell them the idea of using forth 18:06:29 Yes. 18:07:08 Most of my forth programs so far are very small. 18:07:28 Like 10 lines of code. 18:07:50 I have never make a large forth program. 18:08:01 Not yet. 18:09:23 It seams kind of hard to juggle more than 10 things on the stack at once. 18:10:22 I guess you can always use variables to simplify all the swaps, dups, and such. 18:13:31 johnmark_: ??? You have read Thinking Forth, no? 18:13:42 No. 18:14:09 I am mostly into C and assembly. 18:14:26 Mostly for 8-bit computers. 18:14:55 I study of computer history has lead me to forth. 18:15:42 I misted the chance to learn it back in the 1980s. So I am making up for it now. 18:17:26 I like RPN. 18:17:28 I recommend you read that book. There should be a pdf available of it somewhere on the 'Net. 18:18:51 I am dyslexic and reading is difficult for me, but and audio book or text to speech is a possibility. 18:21:27 I remember a story where someone was programming a radio telescope and the micro processor did not have an interrupt. But because the language was in forth they added a poll of IO with each forth instruction fetch and made a working system. 18:22:42 put the poll in the $NEXT routine/code-fragment? 18:23:19 I do not know the details. 18:23:41 most likely 18:25:19 I am a big time podcast listener. 18:28:23 I recently listen to a 15 hour long audio book called "Ready Player One". It has some bad language but the story was good. 18:29:14 It is currently being turned into a movie. 18:29:50 You can already see the movie trailer. 18:32:03 --- quit: dys (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 18:32:28 I recently tried out a new Unix/Linux operating system called Fuzix. It had forth also. 18:34:19 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@c-73-223-86-196.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 18:34:50 johnmark_: I have read that book. It is pretty good. Armada from same author does not cut it though. 18:36:44 The book was narrated by Wil Wheaton (of Star Trek the Next Generation). 18:38:27 --- quit: mnemnion (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 18:41:31 johnmark_: neat. For the latter book I blame the 'second album' effect. 18:44:22 I think the formula that "Ready Player One" used could be turned in many new books. 18:45:27 I was hoping that the decoder rings like devices used to unlock games in the 1980s would have played a part in the book. 18:45:28 johnmark_: nope. It gets too old too fast. You do not want to get stuck as an author in writing formualic books. 18:46:12 johnmark_: it does make a cameo in one of the riddle resolving parts iirc. 18:46:38 Oh. 18:48:06 A 1.5 hour movie can not do this book Justus. 18:48:23 It needs to be a mini-series. 18:58:35 The audio book brings out the theater of the mind. And that is better than any movie, or virtual reality. 18:59:36 I recently attend a computer museum in the UK via virtual reality. 19:00:08 I used my cell phone and a device similar to Google cardboard. 19:00:26 You can also just use a browser. 19:02:25 Virtual Reality Museum: http://www.tnmoc.org/news/news-releases/3d-virtual-tour-now-online 19:05:04 I prefer computer shows where the devices are powered up, operational, and you are encourage to give it a try. 19:13:44 --- quit: Chef_Gromboli (Quit: Leaving) 19:24:19 Thinking Forth: http://thinking-forth.sourceforge.net/ 19:33:15 johnmark_: you might also want to watch Guy Steeles "Growing a language" talk from OOPSLA. 19:34:56 Last year I attended a Texas Instruments TI-99/4A festival in Illinois and someone gave a very good talk for forth. 19:36:11 It was a file based forth made to work with floppies and hard drives. 19:37:37 fb-forth file-based forth 19:38:40 Link: http://atariage.com/forums/topic/210660-fbforthti-forth-with-file-based-block-io-post-1-updated-08202017/ 19:39:12 I meat Lee Stewart and the show. 19:40:52 The next show is October 15 in Evanston Illinois it is the Chicago TI International World Faire. 19:41:56 I think they meet at the public library. 19:51:43 I can not find a link for it. 20:07:19 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@2601:643:8102:7c95:395e:edf7:1b04:677e) joined #forth 22:33:18 --- quit: proteusguy (Remote host closed the connection) 22:51:57 --- quit: smokeink (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23:06:16 --- join: proteusguy (~proteus-g@180.183.134.32) joined #forth 23:06:17 --- mode: ChanServ set +v proteusguy 23:12:56 --- join: dys (~dys@tmo-099-184.customers.d1-online.com) joined #forth 23:36:53 --- quit: proteusguy (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23:39:14 --- join: proteusguy (~proteus-g@180.183.134.32) joined #forth 23:39:14 --- mode: ChanServ set +v proteusguy 23:40:46 --- quit: proteusguy (Excess Flood) 23:41:11 --- join: proteusguy (~proteus-g@180.183.134.32) joined #forth 23:41:11 --- mode: ChanServ set +v proteusguy 23:42:20 --- quit: proteusguy (Excess Flood) 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/17.10.02