00:00:00 --- log: started forth/17.09.08 00:15:58 --- quit: wa5qjh (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00:21:56 --- quit: dys (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00:54:33 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@freebsd/user/wa5qjh) joined #forth 01:07:10 --- join: dys (~dys@2003:5b:203b:100:6af7:28ff:fe06:801) joined #forth 01:23:39 --- quit: wa5qjh (Remote host closed the connection) 01:42:53 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@freebsd/user/wa5qjh) joined #forth 02:13:25 --- quit: nighty- (Quit: Disappears in a puff of smoke) 03:10:05 --- join: Uniju (~frog_styl@cpe-74-78-4-232.mass.res.rr.com) joined #forth 03:13:50 --- quit: Uniju_ (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 03:13:54 --- quit: zy]x[yz (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 03:14:40 --- join: zy]x[yz (~corey@unaffiliated/cmtptr) joined #forth 03:16:05 --- join: mnemnia (~mnemnion@2601:643:8102:7c95:3c06:1deb:6b6c:f60e) joined #forth 03:19:26 --- quit: mnemnion (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 04:03:32 --- quit: clog (^C) 04:03:32 --- log: stopped forth/17.09.08 04:03:46 --- log: started forth/17.09.08 04:03:46 --- join: clog (~nef@bespin.org) joined #forth 04:03:46 --- topic: 'Forth Programming | logged by clog at http://bit.ly/91toWN | Forth Standards at http://forthworks.com/forth | www.greenarraychips.com | https://github.com/mark4th' 04:03:46 --- topic: set by crc!sid2647@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bvbpvizerlziiwww on [Wed Apr 19 13:11:34 2017] 04:03:46 --- names: list (clog mnemnia zy]x[yz Uniju wa5qjh dys reepca ZombieChicken FatalNIX proteus-guy Bunny351 karswell DGASAU DKordic pointfree1 sigjuice fiddlerwoaroof bluekelp jedb MrBismuth johnmark_ groovy2shoes irsol jeremyheiler @crc roundsf APic Zarutian_PI bedah hobbes- koz_ phadthai ecraven tangentstorm Keshl nerfur xek djinni C-Keen Quozl rpcope jn__ z0d ggherdov` pdewacht a3f ovf rprimus midre dograt zignig larsb dzho @koisoke M-jimt izabera malyn diginet2 yunfan_ ncv) 04:03:46 --- names: list (bavier pointfree lonjil rgrinberg carc) 04:11:54 --- quit: koz_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 04:14:30 --- join: koz_ (~koz@121.99.240.58) joined #forth 04:27:30 --- quit: wa5qjh (Remote host closed the connection) 04:30:25 --- quit: mnemnia (Remote host closed the connection) 06:51:54 --- quit: proteus-guy (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 09:01:18 --- quit: dys (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 09:14:42 --- quit: jedb (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 09:28:53 --- join: dys (~dys@tmo-107-34.customers.d1-online.com) joined #forth 09:57:59 yunfan_, pointfree that's really cool 09:59:42 I am looking for a Forth boot floppy image for an 80486 system that allows me to store forth words on disk, etc. Is this something that might already exist? Or should I write my own? 10:00:47 preferrably something with an 80386 compatible assembler 10:03:21 have you seen forthos? I don't know if it satisfies your criteria 10:04:43 I have neve rheard of it. I'm basically looking for a way to sit down at my 486 computer, turn it on with my forth floppy in, amd voila, I have a Forth REPL right there 10:04:49 ready to go 10:05:27 checking out forthos 10:05:30 I brought it up in qemu once. on a superficial level I can say it is that 10:05:36 I didn't spend a lot of time with it, though 10:06:56 aha 10:08:55 forthos looks very nice 10:14:12 it's 40 MB lol 10:14:22 dang 10:14:24 If I had a hard drive I could do it 10:14:39 but it looks amazing from what I read 10:15:18 I wonder what the size is for 10:51:34 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@2601:643:8102:7c95:3c06:1deb:6b6c:f60e) joined #forth 11:06:57 spyware 11:32:59 --- quit: MrBismuth (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 12:13:56 --- quit: koz_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 12:15:40 --- join: koz_ (~koz@121.99.240.58) joined #forth 12:47:32 --- quit: johnmark_ (Quit: Leaving) 13:26:32 --- join: johnmark_ (~johnmark@d53-64-121-247.nap.wideopenwest.com) joined #forth 13:28:55 There is a special event this weekend in Elk Grove Village this weekend. 13:29:15 It is the Vintage Computer Festival Midwest. http://vcfmw.org/ 13:29:35 Elk Grove Village Illinois. 13:30:43 The event is free. Parking is free. Forth will run on many of the computers you will find there. 13:32:13 I plan to attend with about 175 other people. 13:33:01 You will see computer that are 30 years old or older. 13:33:38 Emulators and FPGA Emulators are welcome also. 13:33:49 I don't think I even know 175 people 13:33:54 are you guys carpooling or what? 13:34:38 My car may be too packed to carry anyone else. 13:35:29 with 176 people, I would expect so! 13:35:40 It is at a Holliday Inn. A lot of people will stay the hotel. 13:35:55 I am within driving distance. 13:40:09 Have you every operated a Commodore, Apple II, TRS-80, Tandy, Atari, Amiga, TI-99/4a, or Sinclair computer? 13:42:29 The computer are interesting but the people are even more interesting. 13:43:17 Some have replaced the floppy drive with an SD card. 13:44:09 Some have replaced the 300 baud modem with a serial to telnet over WiFi device. 13:45:10 You can still find Bulletin Board Systems (BBS). 13:45:11 sounds like a big ole nerd convention 13:45:18 Yes. 13:46:31 Have you ever used a teletype machine as a computer terminal? 13:46:47 why are you asking that? 13:47:41 Well normal text editor do on work well to hard copy, but line editor can be used. 13:48:47 are you a bot 13:48:50 no 13:49:02 sounds like just what a bot would say 13:50:02 1 2 + . 13:51:16 $ gforth -e "1 2 + . cr bye" 13:51:16 3 13:54:45 I hope to present the Tandy Color Computer 3 running Donkey Kong and PAC-MAN using digital joysticks. 14:04:54 --- join: tartal (~tartal@159.224.109.206) joined #forth 14:22:31 When running forth on a Vintage computer forth often became the operating system making forth rather time deterministic. 14:26:11 that logic does not follow 14:28:09 forth running on bare metal is more deterministic than forth running on an operating system like Linux or Windows. 14:28:35 yes 14:28:48 that has nothing to do with it running on a vintage computer or it being forth 14:28:59 ok 14:29:02 I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm saying your causal analysis is flawed 14:32:35 The home computers of the early 1980s had 4 kBytes of RAM. You could install forth and load a forth program and run it. So you could switch form BASIC to forth even though you only have 4 kB of RAM. 14:41:01 Forth can be very compact or small in memory size. 14:41:55 Apparently some people developed video games or computer games using forth. 14:50:08 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@freebsd/user/wa5qjh) joined #forth 14:59:26 I have an Hewlett Packard (HP) 28C scientific calculator. It uses Reverse Polish Notation (RPN) like forth. 15:01:37 I have a simulator for an Jupiter Ace computer that runs forth by default. 15:09:24 --- quit: tartal (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 15:14:23 --- quit: dys (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 15:14:35 I think I like gforth the best. 15:15:31 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jupiter_Ace 15:16:33 zy]x[yz: that's way too far of a drive! 15:17:00 --- join: leaverite (~quassel@freebsd/user/wa5qjh) joined #forth 15:17:15 although my friend just bought a 1972 greyhound bus that gets 1300 miles a tank I could borrow.. 15:17:23 don't think I'd make it in time 15:35:10 --- quit: wa5qjh (Remote host closed the connection) 15:35:10 --- quit: leaverite (Remote host closed the connection) 15:39:57 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@freebsd/user/wa5qjh) joined #forth 15:40:18 --- nick: wa5qjh -> leaverite 15:44:59 --- quit: leaverite (Remote host closed the connection) 15:46:56 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@freebsd/user/wa5qjh) joined #forth 15:54:16 --- nick: wa5qjh -> leverite 16:05:26 --- quit: Zarutian_PI (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 16:14:24 --- join: Zarutian_PI (~3.1415@89.17.133.173) joined #forth 16:16:27 --- quit: leverite (Remote host closed the connection) 16:23:07 Huh. */ appears not to work in Repl.it's jsforth instance 16:26:23 hm it kinda works.. 17:02:36 --- join: MrBusiness (~ArcMrBism@2602:306:8325:a300:38:41e4:3dfe:291e) joined #forth 17:19:33 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@freebsd/user/wa5qjh) joined #forth 17:39:48 --- quit: wa5qjh (Remote host closed the connection) 17:41:51 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@freebsd/user/wa5qjh) joined #forth 17:50:43 --- join: leaverite (~quassel@175.158.225.200) joined #forth 17:50:43 --- quit: leaverite (Changing host) 17:50:43 --- join: leaverite (~quassel@freebsd/user/wa5qjh) joined #forth 17:58:49 --- nick: wa5qjh -> leaverite1 17:59:02 --- nick: leaverite -> wa5qjh 18:07:55 $ gforth -e "45e0 pi f* 180e0 f/ fsin f. cr bye" 18:07:55 0.707106781186547 18:09:42 $ gforth -e "1e0 2e0 fsqrt f/ f. cr bye" 18:09:42 0.707106781186547 18:10:19 1/sqrt(2)=sin(45 deg) 18:53:24 $ gforth -e "1e0 2e0 fsqrt f/ 1e0 2e0 fsqrt f/ f= . cr bye" 18:53:25 -1 18:53:35 Yes they are equal 18:55:40 gforth -e "1e0 2e0 fsqrt f/ 45e0 pi f* 180e0 f/ fsin f= . cr bye" 18:55:40 -1 18:56:00 Ok now I can say yes they are equal 19:28:18 $ gforth -e ": fDegreeToRadian pi f* 180e0 f/ ; 45e0 fDegreeToRadian fsin f. cr bye" 19:28:18 0.707106781186547 20:06:28 --- quit: Bunny351 (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 20:23:38 --- join: Bunny351 (~Bunny351@p4FD2DD46.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 21:45:35 --- join: dys (~dys@tmo-109-72.customers.d1-online.com) joined #forth 21:56:43 --- join: jedb (~jedb@199.66.90.113) joined #forth 22:22:24 --- join: proteusguy (~proteus-g@180.183.124.127) joined #forth 22:22:24 --- mode: ChanServ set +v proteusguy 23:13:12 --- quit: proteusguy (Remote host closed the connection) 23:14:32 --- join: proteusguy (~proteus-g@180.183.124.127) joined #forth 23:14:32 --- mode: ChanServ set +v proteusguy 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/17.09.08