00:00:00 --- log: started forth/17.07.27 01:17:09 --- join: gravicappa (~gravicapp@h62-133-162-37.dyn.bashtel.ru) joined #forth 02:19:20 --- join: nighty- (~nighty@s229123.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) joined #forth 02:35:21 --- join: LeCamarade (~revence@139.59.111.106) joined #forth 03:09:39 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@175.158.225.202) joined #forth 03:33:44 --- join: GeDaMo (~GeDaMo@212.225.125.110) joined #forth 03:37:47 --- quit: Zarutian_PI (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 03:40:37 --- quit: wa5qjh (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 03:40:50 --- join: Zarutian_PI (~3.1415@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is) joined #forth 03:45:14 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@175.158.225.216) joined #forth 03:46:47 --- quit: Zarutian_PI (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 03:47:17 --- join: Zarutian_PI (~3.1415@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is) joined #forth 03:53:54 --- quit: Zarutian_PI (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 04:06:44 --- join: Zarutian_PI (~3.1415@89.17.133.173) joined #forth 04:06:51 --- quit: neceve (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 04:08:01 --- quit: wa5qjh (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04:09:52 --- join: wa5qjh (~quassel@175.158.225.216) joined #forth 04:10:27 --- join: neceve (~ncv@79.114.91.213) joined #forth 04:10:32 --- join: leaverite (~Thunderbi@175.158.225.216) joined #forth 05:17:57 --- join: leaverite1 (~Thunderbi@175.158.225.206) joined #forth 05:19:06 --- join: leaverite_ (~quassel@175.158.225.206) joined #forth 05:20:38 --- quit: leaverite (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 05:22:35 --- quit: wa5qjh (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 05:22:36 --- nick: leaverite1 -> wa5qjh 05:37:13 --- quit: wa5qjh (Remote host closed the connection) 05:38:25 --- quit: leaverite_ (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) 05:49:33 --- join: wa5qjh (~quassel@175.158.225.206) joined #forth 05:52:40 --- join: leaverite (~Thunderbi@175.158.225.206) joined #forth 05:54:11 --- quit: wa5qjh (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05:54:13 --- quit: leaverite (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05:55:37 --- join: wa5qjh (~quassel@175.158.225.218) joined #forth 05:58:24 --- join: leaverite (~Thunderbi@175.158.225.218) joined #forth 06:05:29 --- join: leaverite1 (~Thunderbi@175.158.225.202) joined #forth 06:05:37 --- join: leaverite_ (~quassel@175.158.225.202) joined #forth 06:07:03 --- quit: leaverite (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 06:07:51 --- nick: leaverite1 -> leaverite 06:07:51 --- quit: wa5qjh (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 06:07:52 --- nick: leaverite -> wa5qjh 06:33:36 --- quit: wa5qjh (Remote host closed the connection) 06:36:04 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@175.158.225.202) joined #forth 07:24:19 --- quit: wa5qjh (Remote host closed the connection) 07:24:19 --- quit: leaverite_ (Remote host closed the connection) 07:31:30 'MRAM has similar performance to SRAM, similar density to DRAM but much lower power consumption than DRAM, and is much faster and suffers no degradation over time in comparison to flash memory. It is this combination of features that some suggest makes it the “universal memory”, able to replace SRAM, DRAM, EEPROM, and flash.' 07:32:21 Magnetoresistive RAM sounds great for putting a Forth inside. 08:30:52 ram types are fun 08:31:03 I've been wondering for years why AMD never took advantage of ZRAM 09:03:28 jedb: Micron now owns the Z-RAM tech. I don't know what they're doing with it. 09:05:06 jedb: I'd like to see something happen with this: https://www.ece.cmu.edu/~safari/thesis/vseshadri_dissertation.pdf <-- bulk Boolean operations and more, directly inside DRAM. 09:09:30 OR, AND can be done by activating three adjacent rows of RAM simultaneously or in rapid succession. It reminds me of the row hammer exploit. I wonder if these operations can be done with existing DRAM. To make it functionally complete you would need complement and that seems require "dual contact sense amps" that don't exist in current DRAM chips. 09:42:46 --- quit: Zarutian_PI (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 09:45:45 --- join: Zarutian_PI (~3.1415@89.17.133.173) joined #forth 09:55:19 * pointfree is pleasantly surprised that Everspin MRAM is somewhat less expensive than Cypress FRAM on mouser. 09:58:31 pointfree: what is the tech difference exactly? I know that FRAM has some zirconium containing molecule per bit that undergoes conformational change between two stable states. (Not quite sure I used the correct terminology here) 10:07:40 Zarutian_PI: All I know is that it works with magnetic polarization and requires no displacement of atoms and therefore there is no wearout. 10:08:42 http://www.digikey.com/en/pdf/e/everspin/mram-vs-fram 10:09:22 neat. Which reminds me. Is there any news on when titaniumoxide based memristor base memories will become available? 10:13:20 Zarutian_PI: Not sure about that specific technology, but memristors are already available for purchase. http://www.bioinspired.net/products-1.html http://knowm.org/product/ 10:13:40 oh? Then I have not kept up. Thanks for the links 10:16:49 by that MRAM vs FRAM, it seems that MRAM wins out 10:23:33 and not that pricey for the biggest memory sizes available 10:31:12 --- quit: Bunny351 (Remote host closed the connection) 11:46:23 --- join: Labu (~mik@mvice.pck.nerim.net) joined #forth 11:54:15 --- quit: Keshl_ (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 12:03:10 --- quit: gravicappa (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 12:11:25 hello 12:26:54 hello Labu 12:33:34 --- join: MrBusiness (~ArcMrBism@2602:306:8325:a300:c801:d7f:77e1:92be) joined #forth 12:43:52 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@175.158.225.202) joined #forth 12:49:01 --- quit: neceve (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 12:52:02 --- join: neceve (~ncv@79.114.91.213) joined #forth 13:44:25 --- quit: GeDaMo (Remote host closed the connection) 13:46:34 --- quit: Labu (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 14:08:18 --- join: Labu (~mik@mvice.pck.nerim.net) joined #forth 14:48:19 --- quit: Labu (Quit: Leaving.) 15:36:58 --- join: ACE_Recliner (~ACE_Recli@c-98-220-46-30.hsd1.in.comcast.net) joined #forth 15:42:04 --- join: koisoke_ (xef4@epilogue.org) joined #forth 15:42:12 --- quit: irsol (Write error: Broken pipe) 15:42:15 --- join: phadthai_ (mmondor@ginseng.pulsar-zone.net) joined #forth 15:42:23 --- quit: phadthai (Remote host closed the connection) 15:42:46 --- join: dzho_ (~dzho@unaffiliated/dzho) joined #forth 15:42:52 --- join: irsol (~irsol@unaffiliated/contempt) joined #forth 15:43:05 --- quit: nighty- (Excess Flood) 15:43:10 --- quit: koisoke (Write error: Broken pipe) 15:43:12 --- quit: rprimus (Remote host closed the connection) 15:43:34 --- join: nighty- (~nighty@s229123.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) joined #forth 15:43:46 --- quit: dzho (Write error: Broken pipe) 15:46:02 --- quit: wa5qjh (Remote host closed the connection) 15:46:22 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@175.158.225.202) joined #forth 15:49:40 --- join: rprimus (~micro@178.79.128.27) joined #forth 15:50:03 --- nick: rprimus -> Guest98725 17:05:26 --- join: Keshl (~Purple@24.115.185.149.res-cmts.gld.ptd.net) joined #forth 17:56:57 --- quit: midre (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18:08:06 --- quit: neceve (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 18:27:04 --- quit: wa5qjh (Remote host closed the connection) 18:35:07 --- join: karswell` (~user@219.2.9.51.dyn.plus.net) joined #forth 20:27:56 --- join: midre (~midre@2601:547:500:2a80:ba27:ebff:fe92:97dd) joined #forth 23:14:11 --- join: wa5qjh (~quassel@175.158.225.202) joined #forth 23:14:31 --- join: leaverite (~Thunderbi@175.158.225.202) joined #forth 23:17:14 --- quit: Zarutian_PI (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/17.07.27