00:00:00 --- log: started forth/17.07.21 00:02:29 mark4: The esp8266 and esp32 use an Xtensa mcu. Interesting instrution set. 00:03:50 There are a few Forths for them already, but not sure if they're native or C-based. 00:04:36 aha 00:05:54 I have them in my sights too, so there might be a native metacompiled ESP8266 Forth. 00:06:26 would like to see my t4 running on an ubertooth too 00:21:16 I was ogling the ez430 wristwatch. 00:22:56 I want to have my own Forth on a watch, but I'm not too good with a soldering iron. 00:31:47 --- join: mark4_ (~mark4@99.30.241.51) joined #forth 00:34:48 --- quit: mark4 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00:35:02 Mark, you have an invitation to the Forth group at GitHub, if you'd like to join. 01:12:14 erm i thought i had done so lol how long will the invitation be active? 01:12:38 its 312 am here and i was just listening to the end of a chuck missler youtube vide and i was going to go to bed 01:13:11 but ya i thought i had entered that group months ago but maybe not 01:24:15 --- quit: xek (Remote host closed the connection) 01:24:32 --- join: xek (xek@nat/intel/x-ammzjzjnrtmfsosa) joined #forth 01:36:53 There, I resent it. 02:47:04 --- quit: nighty- (Quit: Disappears in a puff of smoke) 03:30:06 --- join: nighty- (~nighty@s229123.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) joined #forth 03:36:17 --- join: GeDaMo (~GeDaMo@212.225.125.110) joined #forth 03:43:23 --- quit: xek (Remote host closed the connection) 03:48:14 --- join: xek (~xek@37.109.33.169) joined #forth 04:02:18 --- quit: jedb (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 04:13:26 --- quit: xek (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 04:17:21 --- join: xek (xek@nat/intel/x-pngrwdepkvtennwp) joined #forth 04:21:41 --- join: jedb (~jedb@71.19.248.193) joined #forth 04:26:59 --- quit: xek (Remote host closed the connection) 04:27:16 --- join: xek (xek@nat/intel/x-lpfskmhlnhbilrwx) joined #forth 04:30:56 --- quit: wa5qjh (Remote host closed the connection) 04:44:56 --- quit: jedb (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 04:47:53 --- join: jedb (~jedb@71.19.248.193) joined #forth 04:50:50 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@175.158.225.217) joined #forth 05:02:06 --- nick: DGASAU -> ASau 05:02:21 --- quit: ASau (Changing host) 05:02:21 --- join: ASau (~user@netbsd/developers/asau) joined #forth 05:09:38 --- nick: ASau -> DGASAU 05:25:53 --- nick: DGASAU -> ASau 05:31:37 --- nick: ASau -> DGASAU 05:38:47 --- quit: wa5qjh (Remote host closed the connection) 08:30:49 larsb i just saw the email, clicked on join, then clicked on join again... now i see a list of all the other projects in the hub... i KNOW i did this before lol... am i now part of the hub? 08:32:26 aha! "You are now a member of ForthHub!" 08:35:52 --- quit: proteusguy (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 08:41:40 --- quit: Zarutian_PI (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08:41:40 --- join: Zarutian_PI2 (~3.1415@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is) joined #forth 08:41:57 --- join: gravicappa (~gravicapp@h62-133-162-41.dyn.bashtel.ru) joined #forth 08:42:21 --- nick: Zarutian_PI2 -> Zarutian_PI 08:47:44 --- join: proteusguy (~proteus-g@2602:306:3032:b350:6c34:3d46:144f:5c97) joined #forth 08:47:44 --- mode: ChanServ set +v proteusguy 09:03:37 --- join: Chef_Gromboli (~Chef_Grom@static-72-88-80-103.bflony.fios.verizon.net) joined #forth 09:47:29 --- quit: roundsf`` (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 10:04:19 Yes, it certainly worked this time. 10:06:07 --- quit: gravicappa (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 10:07:11 ya 10:07:53 was it you who originally invited me a frw months ago? 10:08:04 cuz i accepted back then too 10:27:26 --- join: gravicappa (~gravicapp@h62-133-162-49.dyn.bashtel.ru) joined #forth 10:29:36 im having a major problem with this build, its almost as if the compiler is injecting random gaps between my sections that my linker script does not call for 10:52:32 actually whats happening is thers extra data being injected into the start of my .data section 10:53:18 .text end +1 is equal to .data but i get either a 0x00000000 or a 0x0000000000000000 as the first item in the section which is making it impossible for me to know where the actual start of my headers is 10:53:33 there is nothing in my code thats adding that extra data into the start of .data 10:53:36 :( 11:04:27 mark4_: Assembler? Have You tryed adding ``.align 8''? 11:04:51 the alignment is built into the linker script this is not an alignment issue the sections are aligned 11:05:14 there is a .word or .dword being injected into the first cell of my .data section 11:05:25 sometimes its a .word, other times its a .dword 11:06:51 the alignment is 4 not 8 11:08:53 my .data section right now starts .dword 0. followed by the data for the first header. sometimes its just .word followed by the first header 11:10:01 --- quit: gravicappa (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 11:27:22 Yes, it was me. And it's strange it didn't work back then. 11:37:46 ya 11:38:02 not as strange as this squirly shit thats going on in my code right now 11:38:15 its like everyting is made of jello 11:38:26 NOTHING is what it seems to be or where it seems it should be 11:38:29 driving me nuts 11:39:07 and i cant get a good disasembly of the code AND DATA using garbage GNU tools 11:39:22 i hate gnu development tools, every time i have to use them i spend WEEKS fighting deficiencies 11:39:40 shit that i could fix in an hour if i had worthwhile tools takes me weeks to fix 11:40:44 something something poor artist blames his brush 11:40:59 or is it craftsman/tools? I don't remember 11:41:14 I'm sure they've both been used at some point 11:41:25 but yeah gnu sucks 11:42:18 the list file shows 0x0000000000000000 for all addresses instead of showing the offset form the base to that item. the list file is FUCKING USELESS 11:43:11 objdump diasassemles data, does not show it in its correct form it shows a .dword .dword. .dword .byte .word .dword. word .byte all cluster fucked up. so thers no way to mentally align the data to see whats actually there. 11:43:56 and the fucking assembler is injecting random 0's into the start of my .data. either 4 zeros or 8 zerons depending on planitary alignment or some shit 11:44:06 zeros 11:44:19 and yes im gettting frustrated with the tools 11:44:27 FUCKING GARBAGE TOOLS 11:44:47 i get to use garbage or i get to use nothing because garbage is the only option 11:45:02 mark4_: Have You thought about implementing asm lib (Forth)? 11:45:05 well. i could write an aarch64 assembler and use x4 to metacompile this but .. .. 11:45:19 ? 11:45:42 i have a thumb2 forth it works. the aarch64 forth is based off of those sources. thers no fucking random shit being injected into my objedct with those sources 11:45:55 just stuff built withy aarch64 as 13:30:32 --- quit: GeDaMo (Remote host closed the connection) 15:48:15 --- join: wa5qjh (~quassel@175.158.225.192) joined #forth 15:48:23 --- join: leaverite (~Thunderbi@175.158.225.192) joined #forth 16:09:36 --- quit: wa5qjh (Remote host closed the connection) 16:09:37 --- quit: leaverite (Remote host closed the connection) 16:16:01 --- quit: dys (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 18:16:10 --- join: DocPlatypus (~skquinn@c-73-76-28-213.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) joined #forth 18:28:26 --- join: wa5qjh (~quassel@175.158.225.192) joined #forth 18:28:42 --- join: leaverite (~Thunderbi@175.158.225.192) joined #forth 18:44:53 --- quit: Zarutian_PI (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18:44:59 --- join: Zarutian_PI2 (~3.1415@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is) joined #forth 18:45:10 --- nick: Zarutian_PI2 -> Zarutian_PI 20:15:56 --- join: karswell` (~user@208.91.199.146.dyn.plus.net) joined #forth 20:27:25 --- quit: proteusguy (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 20:34:40 --- quit: johnmark (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20:35:05 --- join: johnmark (~johnmark@d53-64-121-247.nap.wideopenwest.com) joined #forth 20:57:53 --- quit: Bunny351 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 21:10:09 --- join: rtmanpages (~rtmanpage@217.sub-174-204-5.myvzw.com) joined #forth 21:30:08 --- join: Bunny351 (~Bunny351@p4FD2D2F5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 21:47:23 --- quit: Chef_Gromboli (Quit: Leaving) 21:55:45 --- quit: DocPlatypus (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 22:05:13 --- join: smokeink (~smoke@59.53.67.229) joined #forth 22:05:21 --- quit: smokeink (Client Quit) 22:20:07 --- join: proteusguy (~proteus-g@2602:306:3032:b350:1caa:e176:cf66:c2fc) joined #forth 22:20:07 --- mode: ChanServ set +v proteusguy 23:37:47 --- quit: karswell` (Remote host closed the connection) 23:39:13 --- join: karswell` (~user@208.91.199.146.dyn.plus.net) joined #forth 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/17.07.21