00:00:00 --- log: started forth/17.05.01 00:11:49 --- quit: ACE_Recliner (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00:47:06 --- join: gravicappa (~gravicapp@ppp83-237-166-253.pppoe.mtu-net.ru) joined #forth 01:30:44 --- join: proteus-guy (~proteusgu@183.88.67.27) joined #forth 02:13:30 --- join: true-grue (~true-grue@176.14.219.178) joined #forth 02:54:24 --- join: neceve (~ncv@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #forth 03:03:54 --- join: GeDaMo (~GeDaMo@212.225.127.213) joined #forth 03:06:11 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@121.54.90.158) joined #forth 03:27:57 --- join: ACE_Recliner (~ACE_Recli@c-50-165-178-74.hsd1.in.comcast.net) joined #forth 03:58:59 --- quit: wa5qjh (Remote host closed the connection) 04:23:20 --- quit: nighty-- (Quit: Disappears in a puff of smoke) 05:00:37 --- quit: ACE_Recliner (Remote host closed the connection) 05:03:02 --- join: nighty-- (~nighty@s229123.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) joined #forth 06:29:34 --- join: bzimmerly (~bzimmerly@71-11-158-142.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) joined #forth 06:58:00 --- quit: bzimmerly (Remote host closed the connection) 07:56:05 --- join: Zarutian (~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is) joined #forth 08:43:45 --- join: MickyW (~MickyW@87.162.247.203) joined #forth 09:36:47 --- join: dograt_ (~dograt@unaffiliated/dograt) joined #forth 09:41:33 --- quit: bedah (*.net *.split) 09:41:34 --- quit: dograt (*.net *.split) 09:48:42 having loads of fun here, controlling a voltage-controlled analog synthesizer with forth running on an arduino 09:49:19 onre: Heard that, already. :-) 09:49:25 onre: arduino mega? 09:49:50 Zarutian, uno 09:50:32 onre: it has enough ram to host a forth? 09:50:59 that is my main problem with uno, never enough ram on it. 09:51:02 yes. there are a couple of forthes for it, i'm running amforth 09:51:37 this is just a testing environment, i thought of using the 1284 for the actual system 09:52:15 MickyW, what do you mean? 09:53:13 onre: Just a silly joke. Implied, that your test setup was so loud, that I heard it. Not a real good one, but worth a smile, maybe. 09:53:20 :D right 09:53:51 i'd be sort of surprised if any of my neighbours knew forth 09:53:53 onre: Thank you. 09:54:33 There are much more, than I expected. It may depend if your are located in a rural area or in a big town, however. 09:55:41 this is a rural town in finland, a small building with eight apartments. given the ages and professions of other tenants, the chances are rather slim 09:56:02 The only time, I was in Finland (in Lappenrenta if I write it correct), I meet only a moose, who didn't anything about FORTH. His guilt, I asumme. 09:56:24 :-) 09:57:17 the moose was just presenting you with finnish small talk 09:57:53 onre: Probably. - But ... 09:59:09 However, I think there is a steady stream of newcomers on FORTH, Not much, and most likely balanced by those, which stop using it, but ... 09:59:16 there are newcomers. 09:59:56 onre: How did you come over it? 10:00:34 onre: which synth? 10:05:05 GeDaMo, ttsh, arp 2600 clone i built from a pcb kit 10:05:34 http://sanpedrolabs.com/?product=ttsh-arp-2600-clone-standard-case ? 10:05:45 yes, one of those 10:05:52 Nice :) 10:06:31 MickyW, i've first had my hands on forth with a commodore 64 at ripe age of about ten :) year must've been 1991 or so 10:06:33 well, I think those HackAday articles might have something to do with some renewed interest. 10:07:11 onre: Oh. That early, you must be about as young me. :-) 10:07:35 haven't used it much for anything but previous experience and vague recollection of it being rather powerful made it a logical choice for this project 10:08:18 onre: Remembers me on http://www.synthmuseum.com/elektor/eleform01.html . A friend of mine build it once. That was in the early 80s. 10:08:46 --- quit: DocPlatypus (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 10:09:32 onre: Im sorry if I sound dumb, but for what purpose do you intend to use digital uc on a synth? Im just curious. Dont want to argue. 10:10:28 onre: Its only I consider that being analog - I know, there are digital synths as well, but well ... I am old. 10:10:44 MickyW, i thought of interfacing it to some adc and dac chips over spi bus and using it as a way of manipulating control voltages and triggers in software 10:10:51 with a live programming environment - that is, forth 10:11:13 onre: Uh. OK. Thats what I expected. Interesting. 10:22:07 Another issue: Anybody there, who know a flash FORTH with dictionary words (i.e. VOCABULARY, CONTEXT aso.) Especially solving the problem that ram-based FORTHs (like fig-forth) use a forward linked list which could not be done on flash-based ones. 10:25:37 I should note, that I tried to find (forth.org, google aso.) one repeatedly, but in vain. 10:27:37 MickyW: what do you mean with 'forward linked list'? Those forths I have looked at have backward pointing links, each link points to an earlier defined word. Is that what you mean? 10:28:53 Zarutian: I didn't mean the link chain between words. These are backward linked, indeed. I mean the linked list, which connects different vocabularies. 10:29:19 oh, I see. 10:32:01 --- join: DocPlatypus (~skquinn@2601:2c2:c300:ff70:a9d7:4eb3:5b60:2ce8) joined #forth 11:07:57 --- join: bedah (~bedah@2a02:810d:243f:f584:221:ccff:fe5f:92ff) joined #forth 11:24:48 --- quit: roundsf`` (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 11:28:22 Have a nice day. Bye. 11:28:31 --- quit: MickyW (Quit: Leaving. Have a nice day.) 13:30:18 --- quit: GeDaMo (Remote host closed the connection) 13:37:59 --- quit: impomatic (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14:20:36 --- quit: neceve (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 14:23:50 --- quit: gravicappa (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 15:16:55 --- join: reepca (~user@std-001.cune.edu) joined #forth 15:36:04 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@121.54.90.138) joined #forth 15:45:52 --- quit: true-grue (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15:47:00 --- quit: nighty-- (Quit: Disappears in a puff of smoke) 15:51:24 Any idea how to make gforth run a task in the same thread? OpenGL doesn't like it any other way. 15:56:35 I can't seem to find any documentation on the cooperative multitasker - does it even exist as a separate entity from the pthread multitasker? 17:19:08 --- join: nighty-- (~nighty@d246113.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) joined #forth 17:28:01 --- join: smokeink (~smokeink@67.213.215.211) joined #forth 17:57:49 --- quit: Zarutian (Quit: Zarutian) 18:06:57 --- join: ACE_Recliner (~ACE_Recli@50.165.178.74) joined #forth 18:13:47 --- quit: MrBismuth (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 18:36:26 --- quit: smokeink (Remote host closed the connection) 18:38:17 --- join: smokeink (~smokeink@175.20.93.35) joined #forth 18:38:21 --- quit: smokeink (Client Quit) 19:45:44 --- join: smokeink (~smokeink@67.213.215.211) joined #forth 20:42:23 --- quit: reepca (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 21:15:10 --- quit: proteusguy (Remote host closed the connection) 22:11:36 --- quit: smokeink (Remote host closed the connection) 22:23:47 --- part: meta4 left #forth 23:48:48 --- join: neceve (~ncv@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #forth 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/17.05.01