00:00:00 --- log: started forth/17.03.02 00:35:22 --- join: true-grue (~true-grue@176.14.222.10) joined #forth 00:38:01 --- quit: proteusguy (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 00:49:28 --- join: proteusguy (~proteus-g@203.128.242.91) joined #forth 00:49:28 --- mode: ChanServ set +v proteusguy 01:39:18 --- quit: nighty (Quit: Disappears in a puff of smoke) 02:13:37 --- quit: impomatic (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 02:15:56 --- join: impomatic (~impomatic@host86-144-19-161.range86-144.btcentralplus.com) joined #forth 02:44:27 --- quit: proteusguy (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 02:52:24 --- quit: reepca (Remote host closed the connection) 03:08:19 --- quit: ACE_Recliner (Remote host closed the connection) 03:09:26 --- join: nighty (~nighty@s229123.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) joined #forth 03:36:37 --- join: GeDaMo (~GeDaMo@212.225.82.133) joined #forth 04:00:56 --- join: gravicappa (~gravicapp@ppp83-237-175-59.pppoe.mtu-net.ru) joined #forth 06:47:19 --- join: Zarutian (~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is) joined #forth 06:47:43 --- quit: Zarutian (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 06:47:57 --- join: Zarutian (~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is) joined #forth 06:51:58 --- quit: dual (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 06:53:35 --- join: dual (~bonafide@subzeroup.core.rzwireless.net) joined #forth 07:08:23 --- quit: dual (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 07:51:55 --- join: neceve (~ncv@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #forth 07:55:02 http://forpost.sourceforge.net/forthwiz.html 07:55:49 just came up with : 3dup ( a b c -- a b c a b c ) dup 2over rot ; 07:56:26 newuser|41105: and how is 2over defined? 07:57:18 At a guess, : 2over rot >r rot r> ; 07:57:42 2over is standard word: http://forth.sourceforge.net/std/dpans/dpans6.htm#6.1.0400 07:57:56 it is? didnt know 07:58:18 Oh, I did 2swap :/ 07:59:15 https://github.com/jamesbowman/swapforth/blob/master/j1a/nuc.fs#L154 08:01:01 maybe a strange question for here but it is regarding graphics|printing: Could one get away with just four bitplanes Cyan, Yellow, Magneta, Black by using some rather high resolution? 08:50:56 --- join: AndChat96921 (~AndChat96@mobile-107-77-164-34.mobile.att.net) joined #forth 08:51:45 --- join: AndChat-96921 (~AndChat96@c-71-198-226-146.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 08:53:14 --- quit: AndChat|96921 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 08:53:35 --- quit: neceve (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 08:55:41 --- quit: AndChat96921 (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 10:01:38 --- join: o232k (o232k@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-sncuuejbpuqnbglq) joined #forth 10:02:06 --- part: o232k left #forth 10:08:10 --- join: dual (~bonafide@cpe-74-75-153-119.maine.res.rr.com) joined #forth 10:41:50 --- join: ACE_Recliner (~ACE_Recli@c-50-165-178-74.hsd1.in.comcast.net) joined #forth 10:59:45 --- join: MrBusiness (~ArcMrBism@104-50-90-48.lightspeed.brhmal.sbcglobal.net) joined #forth 11:52:13 --- quit: newuser|41105 (K-Lined) 11:52:44 Zarutian: that's how colour printing is done 11:53:06 Zarutian: go and get a cereal box or something similar and open out the flaps at the bottom 11:53:20 Zarutian: ideally pick an empty one, it'll be messy otherwise 11:53:38 you'll see a pattern of spoked circles and stuff in cyan, magenta, yellow and black 11:53:45 this is called the "four colour process" 11:57:06 yeah I know of the four colour process. I was just wondering about if they use four 'greyscale' images or four bitmaps? 11:57:16 (bitmaps, not pixmaps) 12:12:38 --- join: MorrisSzyslak (~one_2@mvice.pck.nerim.net) joined #forth 12:13:05 Hi 12:13:44 #forth hello .s 12:13:51 Hi MorrisSzyslak :) 12:15:45 Hi GeDaMo 12:16:04 Hi MorrisSzyslak. 12:16:45 Hi CORDIC 12:32:19 Hi MorrisSzyslak 12:32:27 --- quit: dual (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 12:40:15 Hi zy]x[yz 12:43:11 Hi GeDaMo 12:43:24 Hi zy]x[yz :) 12:57:26 --- join: AndChat96921 (~AndChat96@mobile-107-77-164-98.mobile.att.net) joined #forth 12:58:08 --- join: AndChat|96921 (~AndChat96@c-71-198-226-146.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 12:59:28 --- quit: AndChat-96921 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 13:02:20 --- quit: AndChat96921 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 13:06:54 --- quit: AndChat|96921 (Quit: Bye) 13:22:06 --- quit: gravicappa (Remote host closed the connection) 13:46:00 Zarutian: I think they generally use 4 bitmaps since when printing they have diff heads/printers for each color. but i guess you could replace remap them in a png, e.g., so instead of being RGBT (T=transparency) 8 bits/color, 32bits/pixel, with CYMK 13:47:19 your viewing/render software would need to change but the technology (PNG, e.g.) would be the same. I suspect some software packages already do this. and/or convert between RGB (useful for human eyes) to CYMK automatically 13:48:15 bluekelp: my question is more spefic than that. I am asking if using extreme high resolution bitmap for each colour instead of pixmap is something that one can get away with visually. 13:57:29 I don't understand what you mean "get away with visually" 13:59:43 that is, say convert an photographic image into such format without loosing much visual fidelity. 14:04:08 --- quit: GeDaMo (Remote host closed the connection) 14:05:34 --- join: impomatic_ (~impomatic@host81-136-80-8.range81-136.btcentralplus.com) joined #forth 14:06:31 --- quit: true-grue (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14:07:05 --- quit: impomatic (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 14:07:14 --- nick: impomatic_ -> impomatic 14:22:32 --- join: John[Lisbeth] (~user@52.176.46.58) joined #forth 14:28:34 --- join: dual (~bonafide@subzeroup.core.rzwireless.net) joined #forth 14:54:53 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@112.198.68.55) joined #forth 15:32:11 --- quit: impomatic (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15:33:03 --- join: impomatic (~impomatic@host81-136-80-8.range81-136.btcentralplus.com) joined #forth 15:52:36 --- quit: MorrisSzyslak (Quit: Leaving.) 16:12:56 --- quit: nighty (Remote host closed the connection) 16:36:56 --- join: smokeink (~smoke@123.114.79.185) joined #forth 16:54:47 --- join: nighty (~nighty@d246113.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) joined #forth 17:01:29 --- quit: wa5qjh (Remote host closed the connection) 17:03:20 --- quit: M-jimt (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 17:07:47 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@112.198.68.55) joined #forth 17:16:47 --- join: M-jimt (jimtmatrix@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-xmidkafsgiiebcmy) joined #forth 17:19:01 --- quit: wa5qjh (Remote host closed the connection) 17:33:01 --- quit: Zarutian (Quit: Zarutian) 17:41:19 --- join: neceve (~ncv@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #forth 18:10:53 --- quit: neceve (Read error: No route to host) 18:11:24 --- join: neceve (~ncv@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #forth 18:20:00 i think fidelity would be the same as any other capture to digital. i don't think CYMK vs RGB would make a difference - if I get your meaning 19:17:38 --- quit: dual (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 19:26:31 ~ 19:31:09 --- quit: smokeink (Quit: Lost terminal) 19:31:35 --- join: smokeink (~smoke@175.22.22.123) joined #forth 19:32:34 --- quit: ACE_Recliner (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 20:10:55 i think zarutian was basically asking something like whether high resolution black dots could replicate grayscale, except extending the idea to four colors of ink. 20:34:23 --- quit: neceve (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 22:43:34 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@112.198.101.14) joined #forth 22:46:20 --- quit: karswell (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 22:56:30 --- join: ACE_Recliner (~ACE_Recli@c-50-165-178-74.hsd1.in.comcast.net) joined #forth 23:39:14 --- join: gravicappa (~gravicapp@ppp83-237-160-167.pppoe.mtu-net.ru) joined #forth 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/17.03.02