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Clap@#&$NO CARRIER) 00:47:57 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@112.198.83.201) joined #forth 00:59:46 --- join: true-grue (~true-grue@176.14.222.10) joined #forth 01:10:06 --- quit: M-jimt (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01:39:27 --- join: mtsd (4d6e3d64@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.110.61.100) joined #forth 01:56:19 --- join: gk-1wm-su (~111111111@5.254.97.107) joined #forth 02:10:16 --- quit: gk-1wm-su (K-Lined) 02:38:00 --- join: M-jimt (jimtmatrix@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-bhrkiqxzdwpkvzzt) joined #forth 02:50:19 --- quit: ACE_Recliner (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 02:50:46 --- join: ACE_Recliner (~ACE_Recli@c-50-165-178-74.hsd1.in.comcast.net) joined #forth 02:55:07 --- quit: nighty (Quit: Disappears in a puff of smoke) 03:13:47 --- quit: wa5qjh (Remote host closed the connection) 03:14:17 --- join: GeDaMo (~GeDaMo@212.225.112.221) joined #forth 03:15:38 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@112.198.83.201) joined #forth 04:05:36 --- quit: wa5qjh (Remote host closed the connection) 04:18:53 --- quit: newcup (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 04:22:13 --- join: nighty (~nighty@s229123.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) joined #forth 04:29:20 --- join: newcup (newcup@peruna.fi) joined #forth 05:05:15 --- join: smokeink (~smoke@175.22.22.3) joined #forth 05:25:18 --- quit: ACE_Recliner (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 05:29:15 --- quit: newcup (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 05:56:10 --- part: mtsd left #forth 07:42:49 --- quit: smokeink (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 07:43:23 --- join: smokeink (~smoke@59.63.28.168) joined #forth 07:53:18 --- quit: smokeink (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 08:00:43 --- join: neceve (~ncv@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #forth 08:18:47 --- join: newuser|41105 (47c6e292@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.198.226.146) joined #forth 08:19:14 anyone in this channel? 08:21:01 does your client not tell you how many people are in the channel? 08:22:35 aha, yes it does. 08:24:01 I want this stack effect ( a b c d -- b d ) 08:24:17 my implementation is 08:24:41 "nip rot drop" -- is there a better one? 08:25:11 that's the one I came up with at first glance, too. but the disclaimer is that I'm not a veteran forth user 08:29:34 Aha, http://sovietov.com/app/forthwiz.html 08:30:25 that's pretty cool 08:30:45 I can't figure out what the field to the right of the flip button is though 08:31:06 --- quit: neceve (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 08:32:04 'Flip' inverts the set of available operators. Huh. 08:33:13 : foo ( a b c d -- b d ) nip >r nip r> ; 08:33:35 I still like nip rot drop better 08:34:11 it's shorter and most likely faster 08:34:33 I imagine most implementations of rot are faster than moving between the return stack 08:35:15 maybe... now that I think of it, I'm not sure! 08:35:40 hmm, nip >r r> are instructions on this target. rot is a 5-cycle call. 08:36:01 well then, nevermind me 08:39:39 well, really optimizing for clarity. Which is more readable? "nip >r nip r>" or "nip rot drop" 08:41:50 personally, I like the latter -- seeing two nip operations visualizes better to me -- but I probably have an unhealthy appreciation for return stack twiddling 08:41:59 sorry, "former", not "latter" 08:46:54 --- join: smokeink (~smoke@59.63.28.168) joined #forth 08:52:11 --- join: jbowman (~jamesb@2601:646:c103:2e00:3119:ff28:1dfb:a4b1) joined #forth 09:05:06 --- quit: smokeink (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 09:12:11 --- quit: M-jimt (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09:30:31 --- join: AndChat96921 (~AndChat96@c-71-198-226-146.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 09:40:24 --- join: forthen (d9d79028@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.217.215.144.40) joined #forth 09:41:56 Hi! Bought STM32F103C8T6 ARM Processor from China. Which forth to use?? 09:53:10 --- join: M-jimt (jimtmatrix@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-rozuxuufzmwsdeti) joined #forth 10:02:21 --- join: Zarutian (~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is) joined #forth 10:02:38 --- join: gravicappa (~gravicapp@ppp83-237-168-51.pppoe.mtu-net.ru) joined #forth 10:03:43 forthen: You could use http://mecrisp.sourceforge.net/ 10:10:32 jeelabs has a bunch of articles and code bits for mecrisp-stellaris https://github.com/jeelabs/embello/tree/master/explore/1608-forth http://jeelabs.org/article/1608d/ 10:11:08 I suggest you search their site for "mecrisp" because it's not easy to find everything just by browsing 10:21:45 Thanks! will look into it 10:32:59 I think you found it: In the Readme for mecrisp it says it support this: - Shenzhen LC Technology board with STM32F103C8T6 (It is what i bought!) 10:43:00 --- quit: dograt (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 10:45:17 --- join: dograt (~dograt@unaffiliated/dograt) joined #forth 12:39:18 --- quit: gravicappa (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 13:03:38 --- part: forthen left #forth 13:07:47 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@112.198.69.227) joined #forth 13:56:36 --- quit: GeDaMo (Remote host closed the connection) 14:24:46 --- join: dual (~bonafide@cpe-74-75-153-119.maine.res.rr.com) joined #forth 14:26:49 --- quit: wa5qjh (Remote host closed the connection) 14:29:59 --- quit: nighty (Quit: Disappears in a puff of smoke) 14:32:51 --- quit: true-grue (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14:33:14 --- join: true-grue (~true-grue@176.14.222.10) joined #forth 14:45:42 --- quit: true-grue (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14:54:19 --- nick: fiddlerwoaroof_ -> fiddlerwoaroof 15:09:23 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@112.198.69.227) joined #forth 15:19:28 --- quit: Zarutian (Quit: Zarutian) 15:22:53 --- quit: wa5qjh (Remote host closed the connection) 15:27:32 --- join: vsg1990 (~vsg1990@static-72-88-80-103.bflony.fios.verizon.net) joined #forth 15:41:33 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@112.198.69.227) joined #forth 16:00:44 --- quit: impomatic (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 16:07:53 --- quit: dual (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 16:43:29 --- join: impomatic (~impomatic@host86-144-19-161.range86-144.btcentralplus.com) joined #forth 16:56:36 --- join: neceve (~ncv@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #forth 18:26:41 --- join: smokeink (~smoke@175.22.22.13) joined #forth 18:48:08 --- join: ncv (~ncv@86.125.230.85) joined #forth 18:48:08 --- quit: ncv (Changing host) 18:48:08 --- join: ncv (~ncv@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #forth 18:49:17 --- join: karswell (~user@214.135.46.217.dyn.plus.net) joined #forth 18:49:50 --- quit: neceve (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 18:53:22 --- quit: wa5qjh (Remote host closed the connection) 18:53:32 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@112.198.79.235) joined #forth 18:53:50 --- quit: fiddlerwoaroof (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 19:33:59 --- join: proteus-guy (~proteus-g@49.228.126.44) joined #forth 19:37:22 --- quit: proteusguy (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 20:01:53 --- quit: vsg1990 (Quit: Leaving) 20:47:31 --- quit: ncv (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 20:50:51 --- quit: wa5qjh (Remote host closed the connection) 21:02:54 --- join: nighty (~nighty@d246113.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) joined #forth 21:08:38 --- join: wa5qjh (~Thunderbi@112.198.79.235) joined #forth 21:30:37 --- join: fiddlerwoaroof (~fiddlerwo@unaffiliated/fiddlerwoaroof) joined #forth 22:07:52 --- quit: wa5qjh (Remote host closed the connection) 22:57:31 --- join: dual (~bonafide@subzeroup.core.rzwireless.net) joined #forth 23:51:29 --- quit: fiddlerwoaroof (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/17.02.28