00:00:00 --- log: started forth/17.01.31 00:43:36 --- quit: ACE_Recliner (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 00:46:19 --- join: ACE_Recliner (~ACE_Recli@c-50-165-178-74.hsd1.in.comcast.net) joined #forth 00:53:33 --- join: true-grue (~true-grue@176.14.222.10) joined #forth 01:37:09 --- quit: ACE_Recliner (Remote host closed the connection) 02:33:56 --- quit: wa5qjh (Remote host closed the connection) 02:39:45 --- quit: mnemnion (Remote host closed the connection) 02:53:58 --- quit: nighty (Quit: Disappears in a puff of smoke) 03:41:09 nerfur: FICL is very very bad example. 03:41:28 For start, the implementation is fundamentally broken, and I'm not sure, if it can be fixed. 03:42:10 At least, not without complicated code. Perhaps, a lot of the latter. 03:46:15 --- quit: dual (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 03:49:17 --- join: nighty (~nighty@s229123.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) joined #forth 04:20:36 --- join: CORDIC (~user@93-87-176-86.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs) joined #forth 04:21:57 --- quit: DKordic (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 04:39:01 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@2601:643:8102:7c95:b9ec:e4a5:d261:b0a) joined #forth 04:43:17 --- quit: mnemnion (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 04:52:07 --- join: dual (~bonafide@cpe-74-75-153-119.maine.res.rr.com) joined #forth 04:57:37 --- quit: mtsd (Quit: Page closed) 05:08:47 --- join: Zarutian (~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is) joined #forth 05:09:44 --- quit: Zarutian (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05:09:55 --- join: Zarutian (~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is) joined #forth 05:11:30 --- quit: Zarutian (Client Quit) 05:26:27 --- quit: dual (Quit: Light travels faster then sound, which is why some people appear bright, until you hear them speak) 05:26:53 --- join: dual (~bonafide@cpe-74-75-153-119.maine.res.rr.com) joined #forth 05:49:20 --- join: John[Lisbeth] (~user@2601:601:8f01:a6a0:8d5e:24a0:96ed:85a) joined #forth 05:49:37 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaRNvJLKP1E 06:00:46 I have been thinking a while 06:01:01 c works on almost all things 06:01:09 and you can put a forth in c pretty easily 06:04:03 I think just for ease of portability why not use c as the vm rather than ans 06:06:19 why not just write your code in C? 06:06:30 then you don't have an extra layer of indirection to worry about 06:06:36 and C is already portable 06:07:44 portability isn't a goal for Forth 06:08:44 that is a huge problem for me 06:09:03 portability is a very high goal for my code 06:09:16 and I would much rather write it in a forthy c than in c 06:10:03 then Forth isn't a good choice 06:10:23 Forth is more suited to applications where you're dealing with fairly low-level hardware 06:10:36 well ans forth / moore forth is not a good choice for that 06:10:42 it would be a good choice for writing drivers, not a GUI 06:10:53 but I am not planning on using it for low level hardware I am planning on using it for systems programming and high level applications 06:10:55 such as gui 06:11:04 it's not really a good fit for that 06:11:07 you should use Python 06:11:21 C, for systems programming 06:11:29 python is not reverse polish notation as far as I know 06:11:41 fuck RPN 06:11:56 you've lost me right there 06:11:59 RPN is godliness 06:12:21 it's fine if you're targetting interactivity on very limited systems 06:12:28 say <16kB of storage 06:12:41 tell you what 06:12:59 why not give the dope a break for a while and once your head clears start writing some code 06:13:04 doing beats talking, after all 06:13:24 John[Lisbeth]: what are you writing anyway? 06:14:42 I am just playing around right now 06:15:07 I feel like you are really biased against weed gordonjcp. I actually haven't smoked in over a week 06:16:11 And weed is legal where I live so I am going to continue to smoke it as much as I feel like :p 06:26:23 legality is not the only reason, or even the best reason, to shit on stoners 06:28:27 whatevs man I'm gonna do what I'm gonna do 06:38:19 zy]x[yz: indeed 06:38:33 John[Lisbeth]: I'm biased against it because stoners are boring as fuck 06:38:54 drivelling on with grandiose plans that they never actually put into action 06:39:14 oh well 06:39:20 gotta go to sleep goodnight 06:41:31 not even fucking 3pm and the stoner is asleep 06:42:25 depends on time zone 06:42:35 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@2601:643:8102:7c95:9f3:ff71:19d5:d9df) joined #forth 06:42:37 John[Lisbeth]: are you in the US at all? 06:43:53 --- quit: John[Lisbeth] (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 06:46:19 z0d: GMT is the only timezone that matters 06:47:02 --- quit: mnemnion (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 06:48:12 you mean, UTC :-> 07:03:32 in Soviet Russia time is in Moscow :-D 07:33:10 --- join: neceve (~ncv@79.113.88.232) joined #forth 07:33:10 --- quit: neceve (Changing host) 07:33:10 --- join: neceve (~ncv@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #forth 07:39:09 --- join: GeDaMo (~GeDaMo@212.225.112.221) joined #forth 08:36:35 --- join: rgrinberg (~rgrinberg@24-246-56-85.cable.teksavvy.com) joined #forth 08:41:07 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@2601:643:8102:7c95:4985:1529:9b94:f428) joined #forth 08:45:23 --- quit: mnemnion (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 08:54:59 --- quit: rgrinberg (Remote host closed the connection) 09:00:10 --- quit: meff` (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 09:45:40 gordonjcp: nobody cares of GMT with possible exception of fleet: railways use Moscow time, airports use local time. 09:51:14 --- quit: DGASAU (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09:53:56 --- join: DGASAU (~user@lmpc.drb.insel.de) joined #forth 09:58:42 --- quit: DGASAU (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 10:16:33 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@2601:643:8102:7c95:4985:1529:9b94:f428) joined #forth 10:17:19 --- quit: neceve (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 10:21:14 --- quit: mnemnion (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 10:22:38 --- join: mnemnion (~mnemnion@2601:643:8102:7c95:4985:1529:9b94:f428) joined #forth 10:39:54 --- join: Quozl`_ (~quozl@activation.laptop.org) joined #forth 10:40:15 --- quit: Quozl` (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 10:45:09 --- join: Zarutian (~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is) joined #forth 10:45:58 --- quit: Zarutian (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 10:46:15 --- join: Zarutian (~zarutian@168-110-22-46.fiber.hringdu.is) joined #forth 11:36:57 --- quit: Quozl`_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 11:37:01 --- join: Quozl` (~quozl@antitheft.laptop.org) joined #forth 12:41:18 hmm.. perhaps a less tedious input method for a Forth using an (S)NES gamepad: 12:44:46 You know where some games provide something like a alpahnumeric-character-scroll wheel where up and down rotates the wheel while left and right advances the wheel back or forward the string of char spaces. 12:46:59 provide an autocompletion based on the characters already entered in a space delimted word so you only need to press right x times, (x being the number of remain chars in the word) if it autocompleted to a correct word 12:47:19 no? still too tedius? 12:49:30 Zarutian: have you seen Dasher? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quw_Kci4fUg 12:53:20 yeah I think I have seen that 12:54:21 I am more thinking of relatively simple&compact to implement input method where you have an (S)NES gamepad as the input device 12:57:35 or just a six button pad on a machine plus a screen 64x16 characters or so in size. 12:58:15 (sixteen lines, 64 chars each line if it is a bit confusing) 12:58:51 like on quite a few industrial machines. 13:01:46 --- quit: true-grue (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 13:04:50 btw, does anyone know if FIG Forth (or any Forth for that matter) was used as the bases for a CBBS system and specially if it were multi user. 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